Family Reunion – Pakistan – General info for all to avoid mistakes

By:
Abdul Majid Malik <majid.malik[@]yahoo.com>;
Dear Members Assalam-o-Alaikum,
I am writing this email to let members know few things about family reunion and some mistakes which must be avoided. If some friend is going to get married  in Pakistan, please tell him/her about these issues. Simple looking mistakes can cause big trouble and delay later in family reunion.
About Nikah Registration:
Registration of Nikah involves three people:  Nikah Khawan, Nikah Registrar  and Union council. UC gives a register with 50 leaves to Nikah-Registrar. Each leave contains Nikah Nama ” Form II” in quadruplicate. In one UC , only a single Registrar can have the register.  In usual case, Nikah Khawan goes to Registrar(if he is himself not a registrar) and gets a Nikah nama Form II (which has fours copies). One copy each (filled and signed) is given to  Duhla, Dulhan,Registrar and UC.
1. Take care that Nikah is registered at the same Union Council where Nikah has taken place .Address written on filled Nikahnama should be in the UC where Nikah is registered.  Any thing different to this created big problem for many ,especially those who did Nikha in a Marriage Hall and brought Molvi sahib from some other UC. If you made this mistake, count a delay of at least 3 months. Embassy will raise objection as the lawyer sent for Marriage verification would like to see your Nikah registered at the same UC as address written on Nikahnama. You may be to asked to change registration of your marriage from one UC to other through a court procedure in Pakistan.
2. Please closely check all the four copies of the filled Nikah-Nama for any mistake in names, ID card nr., date of birth etc. Check that all signatures are there at right place and stamp of Nikah-Registrar is present. Many take things lightly in Pakistan while filling forms.
3. Telephonic Nikah is big no no. You must be present there as German Embassy/consulate now checks it from entry and exit stamps on your passport. If there are some unavoidable circumstances, give a written power of attorney which has legal value i.e signed in front of Notary Public/judge or from Pakistani embassy/consulate (in case they deal with it) to your father to represent you during Nikah.  Better be present there. Your absence will complicate the matters and hence the delay/rejection as a consequence.
4.  Carefully read the requirements of Embassy for Family reunion. If any question arises, call embassy to get an answer. Don’t rely blindly on the info collected from here and there.
5. Some people I talked to have made mistake while getting online appointment. You mad a mistake in name, passport number or email address than most probably you will not be able to submit documents on that day. In my experience, if you decide to take an appointment for family reunion, you normally get it after 4 to 6 weeks. So missing an appointment can be source of further delay.6. The interview by lawyer or at embassy may involve basic questions from your spouse about you. Newly married; make sure he/she has all the basic info about you.

7. Spouse of a Blue Card holder is exempted from providing A-1 German language certificate. About this, don’t believe on what they say on phone :). If your spouse can’t manage to do a language course in Pakistan, present following reference of the concerned Law  as proof on your appointment day:

http://www.bluecard-eu.de/eu-blue-card-germany/residence-act/spouse.html 

http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/aufenthg_2004/__30.html

8. In some cities, there were cases when Ausländerbehorde(ABH) objected that the spouse in Germany is passing through the probation period of job.  In some cities ,they ask for salary slips of 6 months while in others only for 3 months or just a job contract. Talk to other Pakistanis/Indians who have experience of dealing with the same ABH  so that you can proceed accordingly.

Please correct if I am wrong on any account. The info is based on posts of members on this forum, experiences of acquaintances and my personal experience.

If you know some other issues which you or someone known to you faced, kindly share on this forum. This will facilitate others in their family reunion.

2,480 comments

  • Ayesha

    Mainy b 20 januray 2o18 ko pas kiya …Mrs butt NY prep krwaya tha

  • Zeebu

    Aoa. german Embassy ne birth certificate objection lagaya hai.

  • iqra sheikh

    apne bhi lahore se kiya tha ya pindi?

  • Hooriya

    Salam.. Kesy hain sb? Mjay aik baar phir birth certificate ka puchna hai 😂😂😂… Meri date of birth November mein hui thi or mera birth certificate next year January mein bna. To mjay puchna tha k koi masla to ni hai iss mein ? Menay ab Nadra se computerized banwana hai to mein yehi wala ley k chali jaun ya ager is mein masla hai to mein phely isy theek kraun?

    • Mubbi

      Har document pe same information honi chaheye. Jo bhi sahi date hon pehle wo har document pe likhwayen phir apply karen.

  • Ibtesam

    Aoa everyone,
    Mughe yeh poochna tha k lawyer ne mere se hand written lakhwaya k maine birth certificate matric ki sanad ki base pe banwaye hain. Kiya is se koi masla ho sakta hai? Mere aur husband k birthcertificates abhi dobara banwaye the. Purane wale main aik masla tha. Kisi ka aisa koi experience?

  • Ibtesam

    Sub k comments parh k lag raha hai k lawyer k ane k baad ka process b kafi lamba hai. Lawyer told me k mere ane k 1 month k baad aap ko call aye gi embassy se? Aise kisi ko lawyer ne bataya? Maine feb main apply kiya tha appt k liye. Humain july ki date mili. Interview k foran baad within a week lawyer a gaya tha. Us ne 2 weeks tak khudi verification ko latkaya. Ab sub offices se verification ker tw li hai usne. I have no idea how long will it take now.

  • Ali

    Asalam Alykum me Karachi se hon mere wife German national foreigner hai. Mere paas mera woh birth certificate hai jo metropolitan se mila tha almost 38 years old hai nujhe nadra se banwana hai to me apne old birth certificate ke sane date par banwao ? Or please yeah bhe bata dain keh mujhe kun kun se document submit karwane honge ? Or documents submit karwate waqt 30,000 rupiea bhe dene honge ? Or kuch or bhe hoto please kindly details me bata dain bohat shukreya Allah hum sub par apna karam farmaye ameen ya rabul alameen.

  • Anam

    Waslam Ameen.Allah sab py fazal kry

  • Ahmed

    Salam,
    Meri wife ko almost 8 months hone wale hein.
    6 months poray hone per embassy se contact kia via email, phone but no response. Phr usk baad letter likha phr b no response. Phr usk baad dubara likh k send kia letter and email but no response aur auslanderbehore wale kehte k ubi tk verification documents ni ayn german embassy islamabad se. Aur koi objecttion b nhi i, mjhe tou smjh nhi ati, germany embassy islamabad wale kr kia rhe hein, na visa dete hein na btaty hein akhir maajra kia ha

  • Anam

    Wslam ahmed sabar k siwa koi chara ni bas sabr hi kry.or please ziyada embassy ko tang b ni kry warna chirr jaye gy.mujy b 10 months ho gye par sabar k siwa koi chara ni. Sabr kry or dua kry inshallah Allah fazal kry ga.jab allah ka huqam huwa to sary kam bn jaye gy

    • Syed Shabee ul Hassan

      Anam your Spouse has to do something.I think you told us last time that ABH gave a letter to your spouse and asked to submit that letter to German Embassy Islamabad.Have you submitted that letter?

  • iqra sheikh

    you are right sista anam :)

  • family viza

    Aoa ahmed bahi ap ka lawyer kb aya tha inquiry k ly ?

  • familyvisa

    hey, is there any one jis ne apna birth certificate embassy objection k baad cancel krwa k late entry procedure k sth dobara bnwaya ho? kindly tell me the procedure

    • Enquiry

      Yes currently i am doing this too …..

      We have gotten the court orders to cancel old entry and now i am trying to register with late entry procedure.

  • familyvisa

    in the same union council?

  • Anam

    Good morning.Have A nice day

  • Hooriya

    Aoa sb kesy hain ? :) :) Jumma Mubarak. Meray pas boht saray questions hain please meri koi help kr dy :)

    1. Meny apna birth certificate cantt board se banwaya hai phelay urdu mein bna hua tha. Ab uss certificate mein entry date january 1994 ki hai jb k meri date of birth november 1993 ki hai or entry status bhi late likha hua hai.

    2. Mery husband ka certificate CDA se bna hua hai uss mein entry date april 2015 ki hai or entry status bhi normal likha hua hai. Un ka phelay birth certificate ni bna hua tha.

    Mjay boht feeling arahi hai k koi masla hga ham dono mein se ksi k birth certificate ko ley kr. Mjay iss case mein kya krna chaye? Kya mein khudi ksi lawyer ko dhund kr us se baat kr k puch sakti hn k dono certificates sahi hain ya embassy koi objection lga sakti hai?

    Thanks everyone itna lamba msg parhnay k lye 😂😂

    • Fadi

      Thank you itna long massege ka bus ye confirm kerna hai matric ki sanad aur id card passport pr kunsi date of birth hai aapki same hai jo k cantt board meinn

      • Hooriya

        date of birth mein to koi issue ni hai woh har jaga same hai… Bs jo entry date or entry status hai meray birth certificate pr woh diff hai. Entry date January 1994 ki hai jb k date of birth Nov 1993 hai. Or entry status Late likha hua hai.

        • Fadi

          Then entry date bhi 1994 karwa loo warna problem hi hai isliye pehle hi karwa looo aap

          • Hooriya

            Entry date already 1994 ki hai. Date of birth Nov 1993 ki hai. To kya entry date bhi Nov 1993 ki krwa lon ? Or entry status mein Late likha hua hai uss ka kya matlb hai ?

          • Fadi

            Ager date of birth 1993 ki hai aur aapki registration gar walo ne aik saal k baad karwae hai then birth certificate ka late indraj hota hai jo k aapka hai iss mein isue nahi hai then but late process complete houna chahe hai file complete ho

  • Anam

    Aslamu Alikam good morning.

  • Anam

    Helo ajj kis kis ko visa cal ka wait hy meri trah😉😉😉😉😉😉😉best of luck .

  • Sadia

    Assalamu alaikum
    Mujy 1 saal hogia hay apply kiye huway mgr abhi tak kuch nhi pta kab visa milay ga. Mujy app sab say ye puchna hy k kia mein lawer kar lun r kahan behtar rahy ga pakistan ya germany mein?

  • Visa

    Anyone who applied in May and got visa?

  • Iqra Sheikh

    apko refrence number milgeya?

  • Sarah

    Hello Guys, I have applied in March, and yesterday lawyer visited my family, now I want to know how much time embassy will take to process and would they contact the spouse in Germany?

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