Family Reunion – Pakistan – General info for all to avoid mistakes

By:
Abdul Majid Malik <majid.malik[@]yahoo.com>;
Dear Members Assalam-o-Alaikum,
I am writing this email to let members know few things about family reunion and some mistakes which must be avoided. If some friend is going to get married  in Pakistan, please tell him/her about these issues. Simple looking mistakes can cause big trouble and delay later in family reunion.
About Nikah Registration:
Registration of Nikah involves three people:  Nikah Khawan, Nikah Registrar  and Union council. UC gives a register with 50 leaves to Nikah-Registrar. Each leave contains Nikah Nama ” Form II” in quadruplicate. In one UC , only a single Registrar can have the register.  In usual case, Nikah Khawan goes to Registrar(if he is himself not a registrar) and gets a Nikah nama Form II (which has fours copies). One copy each (filled and signed) is given to  Duhla, Dulhan,Registrar and UC.
1. Take care that Nikah is registered at the same Union Council where Nikah has taken place .Address written on filled Nikahnama should be in the UC where Nikah is registered.  Any thing different to this created big problem for many ,especially those who did Nikha in a Marriage Hall and brought Molvi sahib from some other UC. If you made this mistake, count a delay of at least 3 months. Embassy will raise objection as the lawyer sent for Marriage verification would like to see your Nikah registered at the same UC as address written on Nikahnama. You may be to asked to change registration of your marriage from one UC to other through a court procedure in Pakistan.
2. Please closely check all the four copies of the filled Nikah-Nama for any mistake in names, ID card nr., date of birth etc. Check that all signatures are there at right place and stamp of Nikah-Registrar is present. Many take things lightly in Pakistan while filling forms.
3. Telephonic Nikah is big no no. You must be present there as German Embassy/consulate now checks it from entry and exit stamps on your passport. If there are some unavoidable circumstances, give a written power of attorney which has legal value i.e signed in front of Notary Public/judge or from Pakistani embassy/consulate (in case they deal with it) to your father to represent you during Nikah.  Better be present there. Your absence will complicate the matters and hence the delay/rejection as a consequence.
4.  Carefully read the requirements of Embassy for Family reunion. If any question arises, call embassy to get an answer. Don’t rely blindly on the info collected from here and there.
5. Some people I talked to have made mistake while getting online appointment. You mad a mistake in name, passport number or email address than most probably you will not be able to submit documents on that day. In my experience, if you decide to take an appointment for family reunion, you normally get it after 4 to 6 weeks. So missing an appointment can be source of further delay.6. The interview by lawyer or at embassy may involve basic questions from your spouse about you. Newly married; make sure he/she has all the basic info about you.

7. Spouse of a Blue Card holder is exempted from providing A-1 German language certificate. About this, don’t believe on what they say on phone :). If your spouse can’t manage to do a language course in Pakistan, present following reference of the concerned Law  as proof on your appointment day:

http://www.bluecard-eu.de/eu-blue-card-germany/residence-act/spouse.html 

http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/aufenthg_2004/__30.html

8. In some cities, there were cases when Ausländerbehorde(ABH) objected that the spouse in Germany is passing through the probation period of job.  In some cities ,they ask for salary slips of 6 months while in others only for 3 months or just a job contract. Talk to other Pakistanis/Indians who have experience of dealing with the same ABH  so that you can proceed accordingly.

Please correct if I am wrong on any account. The info is based on posts of members on this forum, experiences of acquaintances and my personal experience.

If you know some other issues which you or someone known to you faced, kindly share on this forum. This will facilitate others in their family reunion.

3,289 comments

  • Anam

    Slam faimly viza aya koi RESPONSE yar had kr di embassy ny ?????

  • family viza

    Yar nahi anam kuch samjh nahi a rehi kia kry. Abh walun ne kaha hia k ap ki abi verification report hi nahi ayi hia to viza call ka kia intizar kerna. Ab wahan ok ker k bhejy to pta chly ga haider ki 7 month mian report ok huwi hia mery to abi inquriy ko 2 month huwy hian. Duha or intizar k ilawaa kia ker sakty

    • Capricorn

      Family viza haider ka b koi objection tha ya wesy hi 7 months baad ok hui????

    • Capricorn

      Haider ka b koi objection lga tha ya wesy hi 7 months baad ok hui report?

    • Ahmed

      Ap intazar krein, meri wife ko 8 months ho gae hein, isl embassy wale kehte hein k wait kro rush ha, aur koi objection b nhi ha, aur abh wale kehte hein apk verification documents ubi tk ni ponche even after almost 8 months. Yeh log zalim hein, hum bnde nhi Allah inhe puche ga agr yeh fazool ka delay ha tou.

      • Goraya

        Same they told to Auswärtigeamt here in Berlin today, when they inquire about my daughter’s family reunion visa and they said that they did not get inquire report yet. But I know that they are lying because our inquiry done in 3.5.18 and we asked from the lawyer in Jun and he said that he already submitted his report.
        So really don’t know what to do next.

  • haider

    finally got visa call

    • Zeba

      Congratulations kitne time bad visa mila apko?

      • haider

        oct 2017 booked termin
        3 jan 2018 interview in embassy
        13 jan 2018 came investigator
        and there was no objection
        today on 30/7/2018 got visa call
        guys i dont hold any german or european pass neither i have permanent residency of germany.but Thanx to Allah almighty our file was complete and there was no objection

    • Capricorn

      Congratulation haider

    • family viza

      Aoa hiader mian ne abi site open ki wow good bhut zaberdast huwya shukar hia ap ko viza mila. ALLAH AP KO naseeb kry ap ka jana ap k or ap ki family k ly mubarak ho . Pray for us

  • Anam

    Allhamdulillah haider bohat Mubarak ho apko mujy bohat khushi hoi main btaa ni sakti shuker hy khuda ka Allah ny fazal kiyaaa.????????????

  • Zeba

    Kia hum appointment le kr embassy se pta kr skte hn k kia problem ha jane ka koi faida ha k nhi kion door se jana ha?

    • Syed Shabee ul Hassan

      Zeba bilkul pata kar sakte hn maine aj he appointment book ki hai 30th August ki.Agar 30th August tak reply nhn aata to main InshaAllah jaa k poochun ga.Ap apne Spouse se bolo k wo Termin book karain aur ABH se pata karain agar tareeqa poochna hua to pooch li Jye ga.

      • Zeba

        ABH means aj wo office to gye the unho ne kaha ha k abhi tk file hi nhi aye apkior kia German embassy walon se kahn k unko cal kr k puchn to kia wo puch dnge?

        • Syed Shabee ul Hassan

          Ap apne Spouse se bolo k German Foreigners Office ka aik portion hai jinn Ka kaam he ye hai k wo visa k related inqueries Ka jawab dete hn every week Thursday ko appointments available hoti ha in iss week main b Thursday ko kaafi appointments available hn ap apne spouse se bolo k termin book karain Thursday ki wahan jaen aur unn se bolain k German Embassy Islamabad ko email likhain aur bolain k inquiry report send karain InshaAllah ap Kat masla hal ho jae ga.Unhain bataen k 8 months guzar gae hn agar thora force b karna pare to karain aur email karwaen unn se German Embassy Islamabad ko..

          • Zeba

            Ok plzzz ap mjhe wo website bta skte hn jis pr appointment book krni.?

          • Syed Shabee ul Hassan

            Service.berlin.de
            Ye Website hai aur iss pe ap ko under option
            “Visumverfahren – Gesprächsanfrage zu einem laufenden Visumverfahren”
            appointment book karni hai.Agar problem hui samaj nahn aai to pooch li jye ga.

          • Zeba

            Ok thank you soo much .

          • Zeba

            Ye office Berlin me ha? Frankfurt me nhi ?nd mjhe option nhi mil rha jispe apne btaya oppoitment milni nd mjhe please office ka name german me bta dn ta k me apne husband ko sai se bta skn….Syed shabee ul hassan .

  • haider

    oct 2017 booked termin
    3 jan 2018 interview in embassy
    13 jan 2018 came investigator
    and there was no objection
    today on 30/7/2018 got visa call
    guys i dont hold any german or european pass neither i have permanent residency of germany.but Thanx to Allah almighty our file was complete and there was no objection

  • haider

    Allah se dua hai aap sab ki mushkilaat asaan farmay aur jald az jald aap ko kushkhabri miley.

    • Zeba

      Ameen Allah sbki mushkil asaan krn.

    • Ayesha

      Congratulation hadier so it took 6 months for your visa ….did you get any letter in Germany before your wife got visa call

      • haider

        actually mera case thora sa different tha.hamara nikah 2016 main hua tha aur december main maine khud ja ker paper submit kerwa diye they q k maine january main pak jana tha aur baraat rukhsati k functions kiye,
        january ko interview aur inquiry dono ho gayi,aur jab se main wapis aya hoon feb main tab se koi letter nhi aya shaid iski wajah yeh thi k main her month khud jata tha ABH aur apney case k barey main poochta tha.jab case clear hua germany se to unho ne nahi bataya na hi call ki na hi letter likha balkey maine khud call ker k poocha tha.

        • Yezi

          hey haider, i just wanted to ask some stuff.
          I am a German national currently studying in a master programm. My wife, who is a pakistani national had a appointment in the German consulate Islamabad on the 3rd of feb 2018. The lawyer came to her place on the 3rd of march. SInce i am German national, i was expecting the process to be steady fast but inturn out to be opposite. I have not recieved any letter till this day and its been almost 6 months.
          The only complication that might have occured is that when my wife applied for the visa, i was residing in a different city and shifted to a near by city the very next semester. Can this be an issue? Should i ask the ABH at my present city or the ABH from the city when my wife applied? I have also read on others forums that i some cases, a letter of ABH was never written to the spouse but the person awaiting the visa still got it. Is this also what happened in your case ?
          Its quite schocking that the German consulate in Pakistan doesn’t autheticate the documents prvoided through Nadra and uses union council…..
          Would be thankfull for a fast reply:)

          • haider

            u hav to wait 6 months after interview of ur wife in embassy,then go to abh and ask them to ask from embassy whats going on?i waited six months then i asked the abh to contact embassy and they got my file in next two days.i thnk u must wait 6 months and then contact abh they will help u

      • haider

        thnx.mujhey koi letter nahi aya albata maine khud call ker ke poocha tha jis din call ki us se aik do din pehley meri inquiry report abh walo ko mili aur us ke 3 4 din baad yahan se clear ho gya tha

  • Anam

    Yar many too october main file submit krwai thi.abi tak koi RESPONSE ni dy rhy ye embassy waly main kiya kru??????☹?????

  • Syed Shabee ul Hassan

    Ap ki koi objection to nhn thi?

  • Anam

    Ni sab ok hy 5 march ka sab ok ho k auslenderbehore sy Pakistan embassy islambad main aa giya hy but jab in sy pocho ye kehty hy file prosses main hy. Jab mery pass investigations krny loyer aya tha to wo kehta hy k mery all dacuments cleared hy. Allhamdulillah mera or mery husband kaa uc sy sab clear hy.

    • Syed Shabee ul Hassan

      Nimaze Isha parh k Soorae Muzammil parhye 3 baar aur dua ki jye.Khuda Tala inhain hidayat de ap wase apne Spouse se bolain k wo b Thursday ko Foreigners Office visit karain aur unhn bolain k German Embassy Islamabad se poochain k abi tak visa issue kun nhn kia koi problem hai to bataen wagarna visa issue karain.

  • fatima

    many congratulations haider bhai. Boht khushi hui hai sun k Allah ap ko khush rakhy or ham sb logon ko bhi INSHA ALLAH jaldi visa milly ameen.

  • Anam

    Mery husband gye thy auslenderbehore wo kehty hy k sab ok hy app islambad jaye or unsy pochy ab jab in islambad walo sy bat hoti hy to ye kehty hu k abi proccess hy.

  • family viza

    Yar anam ager pakistan se report ok ho to pher 3 ya 2 week zaida se zaida. Ap ko wo viza kyun nahi dy rehy.? Ap ki inquiry ko bi 6 month ho gy hian humy to abh waly kehty hian ap ki abi ducuments ok nahi huwy . Ap 2 week wait ker k embassy walun ko letter lekho or post karo .

  • family viza

    Haider ap ki kis time pe call ayi hia?

  • fatima

    haider bhai you got visa or your wife??

  • fatima

    anum ap islamabad embassy visit kr lo to acha hai kyun k ap ka given time pora ho chuka hai or ye ap ka right bnta hai ab k ap embassy ja k bat karen.

  • Anam

    Fatima app theak keh rhi hy main 10 agust tak wait krti hun.phir jao gi embasy yar meri freinds jinhoo ny mery sath submit krwaya tha unka to visa aa giya but main phass gye?????????.yar main embassy ja k kahoo gi kiya jo phone py itna rude behaviour krty hy waha ja k kiya kry gy.bas dua hi kro mery liyee. I am too much worried about my visa.

    • Sadia

      Mujy almost 1 year hogia hy mein b gai embassy thi mgr andar jany he nh8 daity kehty hein workload hy app wait karein.

  • fatima

    ye ap ka right hai jab time pora ho chukka hai to kyun nhi kr rhy visa call. mery 12th august ko 4 months ho jaen gy submission k mera to dil hai k main bhi jaon embassy.

  • fatima

    g nhi ayesha abh walon ny koi contact nhi kiya mery husband 3 times khud abh pta krny gaey han wo kehty han abhi case un k pass hi hai islamabad embassy ny decision nhi bheja. mery husband or betian british national han shaid mera case thora different hai.

  • fatima

    ameen INSHA ALLAH

  • fatima

    kia faida agar visa issues discuss nhi hon gy.aj tweeter py bhi martin kobler ny sorry kia hai visas issue hony py ziada time lga rhy han.

  • Shah

    I am a medical doctor and a Ph.D. fellow in a university hospital. I am trying to apply for family reunion visa for wife and 2 children.

    My wife is not able to do German language requirement, is it possible to apply for reunion visa without A1 language?

    Hope to answer from you guys

  • Anam

    Sadia you have any objection in your case.

  • Anam

    AoA Shah i think apki wife ko A1 ki zrurat ni.

  • Anam

    Aslamu Alikam good morning have a nice dy??⚘⚘???????.kiya hal hy sab ka.eid aa rhi hy.sab shopping kr lain new dress silwa ly for eid.????.

    • Hooriya

      Wallikum Salam. Anam mjay to lag rha hai next eid bhi khudi silwany parein gy kapray mjay to abhi tk appointment hi ni mili hai ????

  • Anam

    Ohh god please help

    • Capricorn

      Ya Allah help us all…… hope is like a ventilator of our life……which almost going to end at everyend of the day and refresh at morning……….how helpless to survive in our own relation just becz of visa ???????????????

  • Anam

    Capricorn please don’t crying. I also tottlay agree with u. Inshallah God bless all of us.plz app pershan ni hon inshallah ham sab apny life patren sy zrur mily gy bohat jaldi allah fazal krny wala hy.?????????????????????????????

  • Anam

    O GoD jesy jesy embassy time off hony wala hy wesy wesy meri jan nikal rhi hy.???????????ajj phir dhoka huwa hy hmary sath no visa cal.

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