By:
Abdul Majid Malik <majid.malik[@]yahoo.com>;
Dear Members Assalam-o-Alaikum,
I am writing this email to let members know few things about family reunion and some mistakes which must be avoided. If some friend is going to get married in Pakistan, please tell him/her about these issues. Simple looking mistakes can cause big trouble and delay later in family reunion.
About Nikah Registration:
Registration of Nikah involves three people: Nikah Khawan, Nikah Registrar and Union council. UC gives a register with 50 leaves to Nikah-Registrar. Each leave contains Nikah Nama ” Form II” in quadruplicate. In one UC , only a single Registrar can have the register. In usual case, Nikah Khawan goes to Registrar(if he is himself not a registrar) and gets a Nikah nama Form II (which has fours copies). One copy each (filled and signed) is given to Duhla, Dulhan,Registrar and UC.
1. Take care that Nikah is registered at the same Union Council where Nikah has taken place .Address written on filled Nikahnama should be in the UC where Nikah is registered. Any thing different to this created big problem for many ,especially those who did Nikha in a Marriage Hall and brought Molvi sahib from some other UC. If you made this mistake, count a delay of at least 3 months. Embassy will raise objection as the lawyer sent for Marriage verification would like to see your Nikah registered at the same UC as address written on Nikahnama. You may be to asked to change registration of your marriage from one UC to other through a court procedure in Pakistan.
2. Please closely check all the four copies of the filled Nikah-Nama for any mistake in names, ID card nr., date of birth etc. Check that all signatures are there at right place and stamp of Nikah-Registrar is present. Many take things lightly in Pakistan while filling forms.
3. Telephonic Nikah is big no no. You must be present there as German Embassy/consulate now checks it from entry and exit stamps on your passport. If there are some unavoidable circumstances, give a written power of attorney which has legal value i.e signed in front of Notary Public/judge or from Pakistani embassy/consulate (in case they deal with it) to your father to represent you during Nikah. Better be present there. Your absence will complicate the matters and hence the delay/rejection as a consequence.
5. Some people I talked to have made mistake while getting online appointment. You mad a mistake in name, passport number or email address than most probably you will not be able to submit documents on that day. In my experience, if you decide to take an appointment for family reunion, you normally get it after 4 to 6 weeks. So missing an appointment can be source of further delay.6. The interview by lawyer or at embassy may involve basic questions from your spouse about you. Newly married; make sure he/she has all the basic info about you.
7. Spouse of a Blue Card holder is exempted from providing A-1 German language certificate. About this, don’t believe on what they say on phone :). If your spouse can’t manage to do a language course in Pakistan, present following reference of the concerned Law as proof on your appointment day:
http://www.bluecard-eu.de/eu-blue-card-germany/residence-act/spouse.html
http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/aufenthg_2004/__30.html
8. In some cities, there were cases when Ausländerbehorde(ABH) objected that the spouse in Germany is passing through the probation period of job. In some cities ,they ask for salary slips of 6 months while in others only for 3 months or just a job contract. Talk to other Pakistanis/Indians who have experience of dealing with the same ABH so that you can proceed accordingly.
Please correct if I am wrong on any account. The info is based on posts of members on this forum, experiences of acquaintances and my personal experience.
If you know some other issues which you or someone known to you faced, kindly share on this forum. This will facilitate others in their family reunion.
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Mainy b 20 januray 2o18 ko pas kiya …Mrs butt NY prep krwaya tha
Aoa. german Embassy ne birth certificate objection lagaya hai.
kya huwa cwrtificate ko?
apne bhi lahore se kiya tha ya pindi?
Salam.. Kesy hain sb? Mjay aik baar phir birth certificate ka puchna hai ???… Meri date of birth November mein hui thi or mera birth certificate next year January mein bna. To mjay puchna tha k koi masla to ni hai iss mein ? Menay ab Nadra se computerized banwana hai to mein yehi wala ley k chali jaun ya ager is mein masla hai to mein phely isy theek kraun?
Har document pe same information honi chaheye. Jo bhi sahi date hon pehle wo har document pe likhwayen phir apply karen.
Aoa everyone,
Mughe yeh poochna tha k lawyer ne mere se hand written lakhwaya k maine birth certificate matric ki sanad ki base pe banwaye hain. Kiya is se koi masla ho sakta hai? Mere aur husband k birthcertificates abhi dobara banwaye the. Purane wale main aik masla tha. Kisi ka aisa koi experience?
Sub k comments parh k lag raha hai k lawyer k ane k baad ka process b kafi lamba hai. Lawyer told me k mere ane k 1 month k baad aap ko call aye gi embassy se? Aise kisi ko lawyer ne bataya? Maine feb main apply kiya tha appt k liye. Humain july ki date mili. Interview k foran baad within a week lawyer a gaya tha. Us ne 2 weeks tak khudi verification ko latkaya. Ab sub offices se verification ker tw li hai usne. I have no idea how long will it take now.
Asalam Alykum me Karachi se hon mere wife German national foreigner hai. Mere paas mera woh birth certificate hai jo metropolitan se mila tha almost 38 years old hai nujhe nadra se banwana hai to me apne old birth certificate ke sane date par banwao ? Or please yeah bhe bata dain keh mujhe kun kun se document submit karwane honge ? Or documents submit karwate waqt 30,000 rupiea bhe dene honge ? Or kuch or bhe hoto please kindly details me bata dain bohat shukreya Allah hum sub par apna karam farmaye ameen ya rabul alameen.
Waslam Ameen.Allah sab py fazal kry
Salam,
Meri wife ko almost 8 months hone wale hein.
6 months poray hone per embassy se contact kia via email, phone but no response. Phr usk baad letter likha phr b no response. Phr usk baad dubara likh k send kia letter and email but no response aur auslanderbehore wale kehte k ubi tk verification documents ni ayn german embassy islamabad se. Aur koi objecttion b nhi i, mjhe tou smjh nhi ati, germany embassy islamabad wale kr kia rhe hein, na visa dete hein na btaty hein akhir maajra kia ha
Mujy b 12 months ho gaye hein bs sabar he kar sakty hein
Sadia koi objection lga tha kya apk case main?
12 months but inquiry kub hue thy aapki koi objection tou nahi tha aapka , itna ziada time
Last year i think 8 septembr koi objection nhi sb documents clear hein r mery husbnd ne b dec mein documents submit karwaye mgr abhi tak koi call nhi aii
Wslam ahmed sabar k siwa koi chara ni bas sabr hi kry.or please ziyada embassy ko tang b ni kry warna chirr jaye gy.mujy b 10 months ho gye par sabar k siwa koi chara ni. Sabr kry or dua kry inshallah Allah fazal kry ga.jab allah ka huqam huwa to sary kam bn jaye gy
Anam your Spouse has to do something.I think you told us last time that ABH gave a letter to your spouse and asked to submit that letter to German Embassy Islamabad.Have you submitted that letter?
you are right sista anam :)
Aoa ahmed bahi ap ka lawyer kb aya tha inquiry k ly ?
hey, is there any one jis ne apna birth certificate embassy objection k baad cancel krwa k late entry procedure k sth dobara bnwaya ho? kindly tell me the procedure
Yes currently i am doing this too …..
We have gotten the court orders to cancel old entry and now i am trying to register with late entry procedure.
in the same union council?
Good morning.Have A nice day
Aoa sb kesy hain ? :) :) Jumma Mubarak. Meray pas boht saray questions hain please meri koi help kr dy :)
1. Meny apna birth certificate cantt board se banwaya hai phelay urdu mein bna hua tha. Ab uss certificate mein entry date january 1994 ki hai jb k meri date of birth november 1993 ki hai or entry status bhi late likha hua hai.
2. Mery husband ka certificate CDA se bna hua hai uss mein entry date april 2015 ki hai or entry status bhi normal likha hua hai. Un ka phelay birth certificate ni bna hua tha.
Mjay boht feeling arahi hai k koi masla hga ham dono mein se ksi k birth certificate ko ley kr. Mjay iss case mein kya krna chaye? Kya mein khudi ksi lawyer ko dhund kr us se baat kr k puch sakti hn k dono certificates sahi hain ya embassy koi objection lga sakti hai?
Thanks everyone itna lamba msg parhnay k lye ??
Thank you itna long massege ka bus ye confirm kerna hai matric ki sanad aur id card passport pr kunsi date of birth hai aapki same hai jo k cantt board meinn
date of birth mein to koi issue ni hai woh har jaga same hai… Bs jo entry date or entry status hai meray birth certificate pr woh diff hai. Entry date January 1994 ki hai jb k date of birth Nov 1993 hai. Or entry status Late likha hua hai.
Then entry date bhi 1994 karwa loo warna problem hi hai isliye pehle hi karwa looo aap
Entry date already 1994 ki hai. Date of birth Nov 1993 ki hai. To kya entry date bhi Nov 1993 ki krwa lon ? Or entry status mein Late likha hua hai uss ka kya matlb hai ?
Ager date of birth 1993 ki hai aur aapki registration gar walo ne aik saal k baad karwae hai then birth certificate ka late indraj hota hai jo k aapka hai iss mein isue nahi hai then but late process complete houna chahe hai file complete ho
Aslamu Alikam good morning.
Anyone who got visa cal…..it has been five months as I applied
kisi ko appointment mili hai is month mei ?
Iqra mjay to abhi tk appointment ki email ni ayi hai.. Itnay time ho gya hai wait krty krty bhi :(:(:(
Hye allah Ye Kya Kartay hain embassy walay mujhe bhi itna arsa hogeya hai refrence number bhej kar so jatay hain. :((((((
Helo ajj kis kis ko visa cal ka wait hy meri trah???????best of luck .
Assalamu alaikum
Mujy 1 saal hogia hay apply kiye huway mgr abhi tak kuch nhi pta kab visa milay ga. Mujy app sab say ye puchna hy k kia mein lawer kar lun r kahan behtar rahy ga pakistan ya germany mein?
Anyone who applied in May and got visa?
Applied in march ….still waiting
What was your Date?
12 March was my date
apko refrence number milgeya?
Hello Guys, I have applied in March, and yesterday lawyer visited my family, now I want to know how much time embassy will take to process and would they contact the spouse in Germany?
?????????????????? mujy bohat fever ho giya hy wait kr kr k.
hosla rakho sista anam hehe.
Koi baat ni Anam inshaAllah jaldi sab ho jaye ga :) :) :)
Yar kab hoga meri jan nikal rhi hy soch soch k?????????????visa g ohoooooooo itna trsa trsa k toba hy ham to intzar kr kr k jan sy ja rhy hyn kab aao gyyy plz ab aa jao.main to nafsiyati ho rhi hunn
@Fadiand Family viza any update on your side ????
Abi tak koi update nahi hai bus dua hi ker rahe hain… aik dafa lwyer ki call ae thy k wife ki pics bhejo apne sath jub wo yaha ae thy then keh raha tha submit karwa do ga file elections k baad
Allah hadait dy embassy walo ko or hmry ly asania peda ho ameen
Aoa capricorn . Mera to abi koi reply nahi aya hia ducuments sumbit kervaye 5 months complete ho chuky hen. Ap bataye lawyer ne contact kia hia? Shead to 6 months bad reply jye
Ni contact kya lawyer na b or apk husband ki inquiry ho gi???
mery husband ki pehly inquiry ho chuki hia shead ab na ho .
husband ki inquiry kaise hoti hai?