By:
Abdul Majid Malik <majid.malik[@]yahoo.com>;
Dear Members Assalam-o-Alaikum,
I am writing this email to let members know few things about family reunion and some mistakes which must be avoided. If some friend is going to get married in Pakistan, please tell him/her about these issues. Simple looking mistakes can cause big trouble and delay later in family reunion.
About Nikah Registration:
Registration of Nikah involves three people: Nikah Khawan, Nikah Registrar and Union council. UC gives a register with 50 leaves to Nikah-Registrar. Each leave contains Nikah Nama ” Form II” in quadruplicate. In one UC , only a single Registrar can have the register. In usual case, Nikah Khawan goes to Registrar(if he is himself not a registrar) and gets a Nikah nama Form II (which has fours copies). One copy each (filled and signed) is given to Duhla, Dulhan,Registrar and UC.
1. Take care that Nikah is registered at the same Union Council where Nikah has taken place .Address written on filled Nikahnama should be in the UC where Nikah is registered. Any thing different to this created big problem for many ,especially those who did Nikha in a Marriage Hall and brought Molvi sahib from some other UC. If you made this mistake, count a delay of at least 3 months. Embassy will raise objection as the lawyer sent for Marriage verification would like to see your Nikah registered at the same UC as address written on Nikahnama. You may be to asked to change registration of your marriage from one UC to other through a court procedure in Pakistan.
2. Please closely check all the four copies of the filled Nikah-Nama for any mistake in names, ID card nr., date of birth etc. Check that all signatures are there at right place and stamp of Nikah-Registrar is present. Many take things lightly in Pakistan while filling forms.
3. Telephonic Nikah is big no no. You must be present there as German Embassy/consulate now checks it from entry and exit stamps on your passport. If there are some unavoidable circumstances, give a written power of attorney which has legal value i.e signed in front of Notary Public/judge or from Pakistani embassy/consulate (in case they deal with it) to your father to represent you during Nikah. Better be present there. Your absence will complicate the matters and hence the delay/rejection as a consequence.
5. Some people I talked to have made mistake while getting online appointment. You mad a mistake in name, passport number or email address than most probably you will not be able to submit documents on that day. In my experience, if you decide to take an appointment for family reunion, you normally get it after 4 to 6 weeks. So missing an appointment can be source of further delay.6. The interview by lawyer or at embassy may involve basic questions from your spouse about you. Newly married; make sure he/she has all the basic info about you.
7. Spouse of a Blue Card holder is exempted from providing A-1 German language certificate. About this, don’t believe on what they say on phone :). If your spouse can’t manage to do a language course in Pakistan, present following reference of the concerned Law as proof on your appointment day:
http://www.bluecard-eu.de/eu-blue-card-germany/residence-act/spouse.html
http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/aufenthg_2004/__30.html
8. In some cities, there were cases when Ausländerbehorde(ABH) objected that the spouse in Germany is passing through the probation period of job. In some cities ,they ask for salary slips of 6 months while in others only for 3 months or just a job contract. Talk to other Pakistanis/Indians who have experience of dealing with the same ABH so that you can proceed accordingly.
Please correct if I am wrong on any account. The info is based on posts of members on this forum, experiences of acquaintances and my personal experience.
If you know some other issues which you or someone known to you faced, kindly share on this forum. This will facilitate others in their family reunion.
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Hello,
I heard that we need to show some medical evidence to prove our age if we have a Birth Certificate with Late entry. A friend of mine is currently applying and has shown his age two years younger than the original one from the start.
He wants to know about the medical checkup. Will he face some problems because of his two years issue? or the medical report is fine if you have issues up to two years?
Please guide kar dain k kya yeh issue ban jayega? Ya zyada masla nhn hoga. Please help
Really depends on the lawyer there for verification. For the correct procedure ask the office where the birth was registered.
Hi.I want to ask about Online nikah? I’ve heard that German authorities(whoever are responsible for issuing Visas) don’t accept that? Can anyone acknowledge me on this? Thankyou.
hi ali , if possible dont do it.. Coz there are other verifications needed etc.
but germany accepts way of marriages of other countries
Aoa.
Do the applicant need A1 if the spouse has German passport.
yes
AoA everyone!
So, my husband applied for a family reunion Visa in January 2019 (submitted all the documents, answerd many questions about spouse and marriage during the doc. submission interview etc) and in February he had one interview with the lawyer. Now after almost 1 year he has received finally an Email for an interview at the embassy in Karachi. Now my question is, is this interview the so-called “visa call?”. We have waited 1 year (according to the ABH everything is good, I was never asked to visit them, but I had many lenghty phone calls with my case worker at the ABH). So this upcoming interview, will he receive the visa at that meeting? Or will we have to wait much longer? Another question of mine is, what kind of questions will they ask? (They asked all the questions during the appoinment for the document submission).
I hope you can help me out!
Edit: It is January 2020!
AoA everyone!
So, my husband applied for a family reunion Visa in January 2020 (submitted all the documents, answerd many questions about spouse and marriage during the doc. submission interview etc) and in February he had one interview with the lawyer. Now after almost 1 year he has received finally an Email for an interview at the embassy in Karachi. Now my question is, is this interview the so-called “visa call?”. We have waited 1 year (according to the ABH everything is good, I was never asked to visit them, but I had many lenghty phone calls with my case worker at the ABH). So this upcoming interview, will he receive the visa at that meeting? Or will we have to wait much longer? Another question of mine is, what kind of questions will they ask? (They asked all the questions during the appoinment for the document submission).
I hope you can help me out!
this doesnt make sense.. did you book two appoitnments? email the embassy and clarify. If visa interview was in islamabad, visa will also be issued from there.
Yes this doesn’t make sense. I had applied for FR in October 2019 and recieved an appointment date in February 2021. Initially I had applied in Islamabad Embassy but they have transfered my case to Karachi embassy so i shall be submitting my application by the end of February 2021 in Karachi.
Your case seems unusual, as i know a coulle of family and friends who had applied in late 2018 and submitted their applications in march but due to covid they couldn’t use their visa which eventually expired. But they were given a simplified visa option where they submited the application online again and got their visas for the second time in September 2020.
Also note we had emailed them multiple times with compelling reasons and after 1 year and 4 months we have finally got our appointment.
AoA, I got an email from embassy that I have double entries of birth registration certificate cancel the older one and re issue the new one from any reliable union council, they give me a dead line as well, I have used the older one in all my documents(educational record).kindly tell me how to do that ?is it necessary to cancel only from union council or from some other place as well?? Kindly guide me in detail….
Hi birth certificate issue can only be resolved through your union council. Your birth certificate details must be aligned with the details of your passport. For more clarity you should email the embassy for exactly what they want.
All the best.
Asalam o alaikom
I have applied for family reunion. My husband is blue card holder .they need my husband birth certificate but he don’t have his birth certificate because when he came from Afghanistan he dont have document. At that time have he has no one in Afghanistan from his family. His mother father both are death .so question is that what should we do now for birth certificate?? Plz answer. Its very urgent
He should write to the authorities or contact the embassy of afghanistan!. they need to prove his identity / nationality
Hi everyone I pray your process gets easier.
I had applied for the family reunion visa in October 2019 in Islamabad embassy, and I have recieved my appointment call in February 2021. And moreover they have shifted my application to Karachi consulate so my interview will be in Karachi.
I am confused in what order they are allocating appointment slots. Some people sharing here have recieved calls in less than a year and so. The waiting time is so nerve wrecking.
Asslamualaikum. Me german me hota hu or me apni mother k liye qpply karna chahta hu koi help karsqkta hai
If nikah registration date is different in UC and Nikah registrar office, is that create issues?
Yes it can create an issue
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