Family Reunion – Pakistan – General info for all to avoid mistakes

By:
Abdul Majid Malik <majid.malik[@]yahoo.com>;
Dear Members Assalam-o-Alaikum,
I am writing this email to let members know few things about family reunion and some mistakes which must be avoided. If some friend is going to get married  in Pakistan, please tell him/her about these issues. Simple looking mistakes can cause big trouble and delay later in family reunion.
About Nikah Registration:
Registration of Nikah involves three people:  Nikah Khawan, Nikah Registrar  and Union council. UC gives a register with 50 leaves to Nikah-Registrar. Each leave contains Nikah Nama ” Form II” in quadruplicate. In one UC , only a single Registrar can have the register.  In usual case, Nikah Khawan goes to Registrar(if he is himself not a registrar) and gets a Nikah nama Form II (which has fours copies). One copy each (filled and signed) is given to  Duhla, Dulhan,Registrar and UC.
1. Take care that Nikah is registered at the same Union Council where Nikah has taken place .Address written on filled Nikahnama should be in the UC where Nikah is registered.  Any thing different to this created big problem for many ,especially those who did Nikha in a Marriage Hall and brought Molvi sahib from some other UC. If you made this mistake, count a delay of at least 3 months. Embassy will raise objection as the lawyer sent for Marriage verification would like to see your Nikah registered at the same UC as address written on Nikahnama. You may be to asked to change registration of your marriage from one UC to other through a court procedure in Pakistan.
2. Please closely check all the four copies of the filled Nikah-Nama for any mistake in names, ID card nr., date of birth etc. Check that all signatures are there at right place and stamp of Nikah-Registrar is present. Many take things lightly in Pakistan while filling forms.
3. Telephonic Nikah is big no no. You must be present there as German Embassy/consulate now checks it from entry and exit stamps on your passport. If there are some unavoidable circumstances, give a written power of attorney which has legal value i.e signed in front of Notary Public/judge or from Pakistani embassy/consulate (in case they deal with it) to your father to represent you during Nikah.  Better be present there. Your absence will complicate the matters and hence the delay/rejection as a consequence.
4.  Carefully read the requirements of Embassy for Family reunion. If any question arises, call embassy to get an answer. Don’t rely blindly on the info collected from here and there.
5. Some people I talked to have made mistake while getting online appointment. You mad a mistake in name, passport number or email address than most probably you will not be able to submit documents on that day. In my experience, if you decide to take an appointment for family reunion, you normally get it after 4 to 6 weeks. So missing an appointment can be source of further delay.6. The interview by lawyer or at embassy may involve basic questions from your spouse about you. Newly married; make sure he/she has all the basic info about you.

7. Spouse of a Blue Card holder is exempted from providing A-1 German language certificate. About this, don’t believe on what they say on phone :). If your spouse can’t manage to do a language course in Pakistan, present following reference of the concerned Law  as proof on your appointment day:

http://www.bluecard-eu.de/eu-blue-card-germany/residence-act/spouse.html 

http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/aufenthg_2004/__30.html

8. In some cities, there were cases when Ausländerbehorde(ABH) objected that the spouse in Germany is passing through the probation period of job.  In some cities ,they ask for salary slips of 6 months while in others only for 3 months or just a job contract. Talk to other Pakistanis/Indians who have experience of dealing with the same ABH  so that you can proceed accordingly.

Please correct if I am wrong on any account. The info is based on posts of members on this forum, experiences of acquaintances and my personal experience.

If you know some other issues which you or someone known to you faced, kindly share on this forum. This will facilitate others in their family reunion.

3,289 comments

  • Zahra

    Can Anyone tell me in application form . Section 12 where its written : Intended duration of stay in Germany – From —- and To——
    What should be filled?

    Thanks in advance

    • Ayesha

      Applied on 12 March got email 14 March from emabssy to legalize birth certificate from saudia German embassy ( I was born in saudia so ) and submitted before 26 June . ..ABH called my husband on 26 March …I submit my birth certificate after legalisation on 29th April lawyer visited me on 9th may my all case file is cleared ….now waiting for visa ? …can anyone tell should I wait this month or next for visa ..or have to wait for 6 month to be completed …

  • family viza

    aoa ayesha mery khial mian ap 12 sept tk wait ker lo 6 month ho jye gy inshallah ap ko us se pehly viza mil jye ga. mian ne 14 march ko ducuments sumbit kervaye hian 22 may ko lwyer aya hia abi tk koi answer nahi lawyer se mian ne poncha to us ne kaha hia 6 month bad hi ap ko reply aye ga mian ne objection k bad hi 14 march ko sumbit kervaye hian.

  • family viza

    mery lawyer ne yeh hi kaha tha k ap smjy ap ka case ab jama huwaya hia. ab dekhy agy kia kerty hian?

    • Capricorn

      Good luck :) or mery ly b dua kr dy k objection jaldi rssolve ho jay mera

      • Fadi

        Aap ne case submit karwa dia hai kia again birth certificate dae dia kia

        • Capricorn

          Nai abi nadra na cancellation ki confirmation ni di to main wait kr rhi kya main esk duran new apply kr sakti hn

          • Fadi

            Aap kiss coty se ho aur nadra k kiss office mein jama karwaya hai mein ne jama karwa dia hai embassy mein dua ki joye ga

          • Capricorn

            Main sargodha city sa or Regional head office sargodha main hi jama krwaya hai Inshalllah ho jay ga apka b

          • Fadi

            Kitne days pehle aap ne jama karwaya hai aur kitne days ka kaha hai k wo kere gae aur birth certificate bun gaya aapka

          • Capricorn

            Kal jama krwaya hai one week ka kha hai ni bna abi new :(

        • Capricorn

          Can you please guide me Fadi???? Meri union council sa cancellation ho gi hai report b mil gi hai nadra main b apply kya hua hai but abi tak kuch ni btya unho na kya main new apply kr do i have just 2 weeks left

  • fatima

    group members ap log pareshan na hon Allah Tala behtar kary ga IA main ny embassy mail ki thi to woh keh rhy han work load ziada hai us wajah sy ziada time lga rhy han…syrian refugees ki wajah sy bhi work load ziada hai

  • family viza

    thanks fatima yar allah kry sb okay ker dy sb ko viza mil jye.

  • family viza

    ager mery husband abh se pata kery to wo un ko mial kry ya personaly ja k ponchy wo saarland mian hian . shead abh waly koi reply ker dy k ab kia issue hia

  • fatima

    u r welcum family visa sb k liye dua hai Allah Tala K hukam sy sb ko visa milly ameen. g ap abh ja k pta kr lain ap k husband mery husband bhi gaey thy pta krny lekin abh waly kehty han abhi embassy ay koi decision nhi aya dua karen IA hope for the best. mera case thora different bhi hai k mery husband or betian british national han.

  • family viza

    aoa capricorn ap ne kb viza aply kia tha ? ap ka 3 month bad objection laga hia kia? ya 6 month bad ap k husband ko is doran abh walun ne bhulaya hia ?

    • Capricorn

      Wsalam mainy 27 dec ko apply kya tha or end of april mujhy objection email ae thi ni mery husband ko ni bulaya abh walo na ? apki kya updates hain?

      • family viza

        mera objection after 6 month bad laga tha abh walun ne mery husband se bi ducuments sumbit ker liye thy. us k bad objection laga hia abi 22 may ko dobara inquiry huwi hia ab dekho kia kerty hian phr abh walun bhulaty ya viza call. allah hi rehm kry

        • Capricorn

          Ktny months k baad lawyer aya tha 2nd time i mean objection k jb documents submitt krway thy??? INSHALLAH JALD VISA MIL JAY GA APKO?

          • family viza

            first time to 45 days bad aya tha 2nd time 2 month or 13 din bad wait ker ker pagal ho gi thi sb kehty thy 2nd time jald ata hia mera itna late aya k bhut tension huwi

          • Capricorn

            No words ?????? mujhy phly hi bht dar lg rha ha???????

  • Visa

    Kya yahan koi esa hai jis ny family reunion k liye apply kiya ho or husband blue card holder hon or visa less then 6 month main aa gya ho? I really want to know k kitny % chance hota hai 6 month sy phly visa any ka for blue cars holder.

  • Family reunion

    Mera birth certificate CDA se bna hua hai or hospital ka ni hai. Kya ksi ko experience hua hai aisa? Embassy walay yeh objection lgatay hain k hospital ka hi hna chaye? Ager ksi ki birth hospital mein na hui ho ?

    • mehhman

      CDA capital me ata hai or ye doctor wala seen punjab me hota hai capital k rules dofferent hai capital me dma cda birth certificate issue krta hai koi doctor report etc ki zarorat nahi mera be dma cda se bana tha mera visa lag gya tha start me mujhe kah tha k doctor ki report etc lakin jab maine cda dma and lawyer se confirm kia tu ohno ne kah humhre rules punjab se different hai koi dcotor ki report etc teat zarorat nhi phir maine embassy ko ye sub batya visa lag gya tha dma se assistant se attest krwa le birth certificate bas

      • Family reunion

        Boht shukrya mehmaan :) Ap mjay please bta dein k attestation dubara se krani hti hai ya jo DMA se bna hua hai bs wohi kaafi hta hai ?

        • mehhman

          aap ne foreginer office se attest krwana hai or dma se dubra attest nhi hoga jab lawyer kye ga tu dma waly os ko verify kr den gy jis me dma ka banda jo verify kre ga wo ye likh kr sign kr k stamp lage ga photo copy pe jo lawyer k ps hogi , that the birth certificate verified for visa purpose for german embassy or sign kre ga or lawyer ko de dee ga aap ne bas origonal foreigner office se attest krwa k embassy jama krwa dena hai baki sar dardi wakeel ki hai wakeel jane or dma jane aap ki tension nhi or wakeel k thaly nhi lagna ye bary kaminy hote hain ager aap k documents me koi masla nhi tu bas fir tension na len islamabad me siraf dma he banata hai or koi nhi no doctor no court etc

  • family viza

    darni wali koi bat nahi hia. bus ap ducumets jama kervayun inshallah jald hi viza mil jye ga. ap apny pass sb ducuments ki photocopies rakhna lawyer a k cheak kerta hia

  • Anam

    Aslamu Alikam app san ka kiA hal hy all members ki allah mushkils assan kr dy ameen. Plz koi meri help kr sakta hy ajj many Embassy cal ki to unhoo ny jab mera file no manga to many btyaa to wo bolta hy k ye file no refuced ho giya ab apka file no change ho giyaa hy.to uss bandy mujy new file no note krny ka bola .or jb many btaya k mera 9 months start hy to bolta hy k 2 months or wait kry.plz ye file no waly new pangy k bary main koi janta hy.ye kiyaaa kiya chakar hy yaa kisi k sath esaa huwa hy pkz share

  • family viza

    w slam anam ap ne kis number pe kb call ki thi mian ne aj ki to jb mian ne uny bataya o family viza hia to unu ne kaha k ap mial kry or call kat di. yar last time bi kisi ne file number change bry share kia tha un ko bi bola tha k change ho gia hia nber

    • Anam

      Slam/faimly viza many 3/20pm ko cal ki or firts ring bell py hi pic kr li or no ye hy/0512007100 many april main jab cal ki too mujy b same esy hi bola tha phir .many unhy yee hi kaha tha k app e mail ka jwab hi ni dety to e mail ka kiya faida.usky bad jab b cal kroo to bohat piyar sy bat krty hy or ye hi kehty hy k visa to embassider ny dena hy apko ham kuchni kr sakty app pershan ni hooo☺?

  • family viza

    anam mery khial.mian is.ka koi.issue nahi hia Salman
    ne 28 may ko.share kia tha k un ne embasy call hia or yeh hi same ap wala reply mila un ko june mian viza mil gaya tha fikar na kro . ap older comments mian cheak kro yeh hia comment SEE IT Salman
    May 28, 2018 at 4:06 pm
    AOA. Mein ny aaj German embassy meine call ki thee. Visa status pocha wo to unoon my bola in process hai. Ok samj ati hai. Likin sath mein muje new file Number Diya hai or bola ab aap ka ye file number hai . Kia ye normal hai. ? Ja koi problem ? Jab k muje 6 month ho gy hai paper jama karwe. IN KO JUNE MIAN VIZA CALL A GI THI BUS AP BI TAIR RAHO INSHALALH

  • Anam

    Aslamu Alikam faimly visa allah apki zuban Mubarak kry or mujy b visa mill jaye.meri to dil sy dua kr nmaz k bad jab apny visa k liye dua krti hon app sab sis and bro k liye b dil sy dua krti hoo allah fazal kry ham py or ham sab ko visa mill jaEe or jin ki dacument ka masla hy allah pak wo b hall kr or sab ki zindgi abbad ho na k intzar main guzre (ameen)

  • Family reunion

    Finally after long wait Alhamdulilah embassy call me for visa collection

  • family viza

    mubarak ho family reunion. ap ko kitna time ho gaya hia? plz share kry process

  • Anam

    AoA
    Bohat bohat Mubarak ho family reneun Allhamdulillah Allah sab py ye waqat laye sab ko visa aa jaye Ameen inshallah.ich gratulern dich.??☺☺☺????

  • A Ahmad

    Asslam o alikum all,
    As we see most common objection from embassy in family reunion case is wrong date of birth entry and its correction procedure is not clear. After getting court order what are the next steps.

    Should we add one new entry in union council’s register or the existing one should be modified ?

    is it ok if the secretary of union council just writes a line on the existing entry that he is changing it with court order ?

    Please reply if you have been through the procedure.
    Thanks

    • Capricon

      Wsalam….in my case clearly mentioned on objection email that you have to cancelled the birthcertifcate so i cancelled the existing one and follow the late entry process for new entry these two points were mentioned.
      1.modification and late entry process both are different.

  • Maryam Jahangir

    Salam. Plz mujy ye pta karna hy k group mein koi aisa hy jisko 1 saal say ziada hogia ho visa process ka

  • family viza

    aoa capricorn kia ap ki mial pe lekha hia k modify nahi kervana cancel kervana hia ? plz detail se btaye ga. mery bety ka embassy me kaha tha k cancel kervaye leken us walun ne modify ker k new bna dia hia? late entry wala process sara hum ne complete kia hia bus cancel k bajye modify hueya hia . kia dobara objection lg sakta hia . ager kisi ko pta ho to plz share kry

    • Capricon

      Wsalam….ji email main cancell likha hua tha q k late entry k sath sath meri overwriting b thi register main….uc waly mujhy b modify ka kh rhy thy but mainy bht muskil sa camcell krwaya hai don’t know kya sahi hai ab.

    • Capricon

      ALLAH na kry kesi ka b objecction lgy dubra ameen

  • family viza

    mera lawyer jo aya tha us ne kaha k ap ja teak hia ap ka cancel huwaya hia leken ap k bety ka modify huwya hia ab dekhy kia kerty hian cancel wala teak hia

    • Capricon

      Dont worry INSHALLAH Accept ho jy ga or Allah pak jald visa dy sab ko or sab ki muskilian asan ho ameen

  • Anam

    Ameen inshallah✈✈✈✈??

  • family viza

    yeh family reunion i think un ka first or last comment tha. bata to daity hian leken process share nahi kerty.

    • Family reunion visa

      Applied on 17 aug 2017 lawyer visited on 24 aug 2017 got objection letter for late birth entry on 15 january 2018 re submitted new birth certificate on 21 april 2018 and got visa finally

      • family viza

        thanks God kisi objection waly ko bi viza mila hia ap k 2nd inquiry kb huwi hia.? plz batye ga

      • family viza

        family reunion kia ap k spouse ki germany se inquiry pehly huei ya ab 2nd time mian huwi plz share kerye ga.

        • Capricorn

          Aoa…..objection sa phly apk husband ki inquiry ho gi thi kya family viza????or jo embassy main new birthcertificate submitt krwana hai usk sath court order b jama krwa do???or kya kya dna hai plz bta dy

          • family viza

            g mery husband se Abh walun ne ducuments sumbit ker ly thy november mian objection december mian laga tha . ap k ducuments complete ho gy good. ap embassy main birthcertifcate ki copy or court oder ki copy jama kervaye gi . sath orignal pe ly jana wo bi dekhy gy. or mial jo ap ki ayi us ka print bi. insh Allah ap ki jald inquiry wala a jye ga . insh Allah

          • Capricorn

            Mery husband ki inquiry ni hui thi phly so ab ho gi

  • Family reunion visa

    Aoa is there anyone who has applied in april and appointment till now. It has already been more than 3 months :(

  • Family reunion visa

    Aoa is there anyone who has applied in april and got appointment till now. It has already been more than 3 months :(

  • Anam

    AoA/family visa app tens ni hoo inshallah Allah ham sab py b ye din laye ha jisy ni btana na btaye .last time fahad bhai ny b bohat late reply kiya tha jab many b same apki trah pocha tha???

  • family viza

    aoa goraya ap ne dobara ducument kb sumbit kervaye hian ? ap k 4 months kb tk complete hun gy ? kia ap ko koi reply aya hia. yar hum 2no ka yeh issue hia k humary ducument mian pher mistake ab dekhy kia bnta hia Allah hi rehm kry ga embassy walun se to koi omeed nahi hia.

    • Goraya

      Bilkul Sahi Kaha aap ny family viza, ab Tu sirf dua hi Ker sakty Hain. Embassy waloon ko zaleel kerny Ka bas moqa Chahiye hota hy. Ab Allah na kary ky is dafa unhain the moqa mil Jaye.
      MERI daughter by 10 April ko papers dobara jama kerway thy and lawyer 3 may ko ho Ker gia tha. Ager unhoon ny phir aitraz lagaya Tu kia Ker sakty Hain siwaye sabar aur koshish kerny ky aur Kia Ker sakty Hain. Bas dua Karo aur Dekho aagy Kia banta hy. Pareshaan mat ho jo ho ga Dekh lain gy.

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