Family Reunion – Pakistan – General info for all to avoid mistakes

By:
Abdul Majid Malik <majid.malik[@]yahoo.com>;
Dear Members Assalam-o-Alaikum,
I am writing this email to let members know few things about family reunion and some mistakes which must be avoided. If some friend is going to get married  in Pakistan, please tell him/her about these issues. Simple looking mistakes can cause big trouble and delay later in family reunion.
About Nikah Registration:
Registration of Nikah involves three people:  Nikah Khawan, Nikah Registrar  and Union council. UC gives a register with 50 leaves to Nikah-Registrar. Each leave contains Nikah Nama ” Form II” in quadruplicate. In one UC , only a single Registrar can have the register.  In usual case, Nikah Khawan goes to Registrar(if he is himself not a registrar) and gets a Nikah nama Form II (which has fours copies). One copy each (filled and signed) is given to  Duhla, Dulhan,Registrar and UC.
1. Take care that Nikah is registered at the same Union Council where Nikah has taken place .Address written on filled Nikahnama should be in the UC where Nikah is registered.  Any thing different to this created big problem for many ,especially those who did Nikha in a Marriage Hall and brought Molvi sahib from some other UC. If you made this mistake, count a delay of at least 3 months. Embassy will raise objection as the lawyer sent for Marriage verification would like to see your Nikah registered at the same UC as address written on Nikahnama. You may be to asked to change registration of your marriage from one UC to other through a court procedure in Pakistan.
2. Please closely check all the four copies of the filled Nikah-Nama for any mistake in names, ID card nr., date of birth etc. Check that all signatures are there at right place and stamp of Nikah-Registrar is present. Many take things lightly in Pakistan while filling forms.
3. Telephonic Nikah is big no no. You must be present there as German Embassy/consulate now checks it from entry and exit stamps on your passport. If there are some unavoidable circumstances, give a written power of attorney which has legal value i.e signed in front of Notary Public/judge or from Pakistani embassy/consulate (in case they deal with it) to your father to represent you during Nikah.  Better be present there. Your absence will complicate the matters and hence the delay/rejection as a consequence.
4.  Carefully read the requirements of Embassy for Family reunion. If any question arises, call embassy to get an answer. Don’t rely blindly on the info collected from here and there.
5. Some people I talked to have made mistake while getting online appointment. You mad a mistake in name, passport number or email address than most probably you will not be able to submit documents on that day. In my experience, if you decide to take an appointment for family reunion, you normally get it after 4 to 6 weeks. So missing an appointment can be source of further delay.6. The interview by lawyer or at embassy may involve basic questions from your spouse about you. Newly married; make sure he/she has all the basic info about you.

7. Spouse of a Blue Card holder is exempted from providing A-1 German language certificate. About this, don’t believe on what they say on phone :). If your spouse can’t manage to do a language course in Pakistan, present following reference of the concerned Law  as proof on your appointment day:

http://www.bluecard-eu.de/eu-blue-card-germany/residence-act/spouse.html 

http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/aufenthg_2004/__30.html

8. In some cities, there were cases when Ausländerbehorde(ABH) objected that the spouse in Germany is passing through the probation period of job.  In some cities ,they ask for salary slips of 6 months while in others only for 3 months or just a job contract. Talk to other Pakistanis/Indians who have experience of dealing with the same ABH  so that you can proceed accordingly.

Please correct if I am wrong on any account. The info is based on posts of members on this forum, experiences of acquaintances and my personal experience.

If you know some other issues which you or someone known to you faced, kindly share on this forum. This will facilitate others in their family reunion.

3,289 comments

  • family viza

    aoa hooriya ap ka ager birthcertifcate nahi bna huwaya to ap abi late entry kervaye gi to plz late entry k process k mutabik bnavaye ga. ap mdical kerva k kal ko ager ap ki inquiry k ly lawyer jye to sb ok ho wahan warna ab ka objection laga dy gy

    • Hooriya

      G please mjay late entry ka hi process puchna hai k birth certificate ki late entry ka kya procedure hai ? Mein cha rhi hn k birth certificate sahi se ban jaye takay bd mein koi issue na ho. Already itna time ho gya hai.

  • family viza

    viza a ja kisi ko to a ja
    best of luck . Allah humari sun ly.

  • A Ahmad

    Salam,, if anyone got appointment in the last days please write here

  • Anam

    Aslamu Alikam.visa cal i kisi ko mujy to ni i.???

  • family viza

    nahi yar anam abi to koi nahi ayi .?????

  • family viza

    aoa goraya ap kahan chali gi hian . yar ap ne yeh mind bana lia ho ga k mera objection lgy ga dobara be brave yar. InshAllah ap ka clear ho jye ga. ap ne koi comment nahi kia . koi reply aya hia

    • Capricorn

      Aoa family viza main last monday ko documents jama krwa ae hn es bar wo log uder hi check kr k reject kr rhy thy k court order sahi ni ya sahi process ni follow kya let see what next plz remember me in your prayers

      • family viza

        w slam capricorn. Allah kry yar hum sb ka ducuments clear ho jye . ap ka ok ho gaya .good . Allah kry ap ko jald ab inquiry ki call a jye. mujy bus thori wo modify or cancel wala dar hia Omeed hia clear ho jye ga. lawyer ne kaha tha mian ne ok ker dia hia . ab embassy dekho kia kerti hia. Jo kam start kia huwaya ho bhut tension hoti k clear ho jye Allah humari mehnat ko manzoor kry. ameen

        • Capricorn

          Ameen ameen sub ki muskilian asan kr dy Allah pak ameen….INSHALLAH accept ho jy ga apka b han embassy na modify and cancellation main confuse kya hua sabko Allah pak karam kry sab pa ameen

  • Anam

    Faimly visa inshallah ab ham sab ko visa mil jaye ga.ajj sara din intzar kr kr k phone k pass baith baith k 5 bjy jab embassy band ho gye or time guzar giya to mera to ro ro k bura hal ho giya uper sy husband cal py cal visa aa giya. Aa gi visa cal uffffffffffff yarrrr.sundy rat ko mondy ki itni exitmetn hoti hy jesy subah sab sy pehly mujy hi cal ani hy ???????.bohat ho giyaaaa.ab too mujy lagta hy jesy visa 1 khuwab hy??????????????????.dua k siwa koi chara ni.

    • roheel

      jitna ap log pakistan se jaldi mein ho na germany ana k lia, yahan ah k maza ah jay gaa ap log ko

      • Ayesha

        Hm logo ny apny husbands k pas Jana ha or hum mashriqi larkiyu ki Zindagi tab he hassen hti jab husband’s k sath hti we don’t care about the country or it’s status ….well har mahool acha hta even koi int k ghr ma the mehnat kr k usko banglow b bna skta and as a boy AP wahan ho do ahrd work and don’t confuse other people here by saying wrong about the country ….

    • fatima

      yes anum mera bhi ye hi haal hai mujhy bhi monday ki itni ziada exitement hoti hai jb time guzar jata hai to udas ho jati hon

  • roheel

    bakwas backward poor country

  • Anam

    Slam goraya please app tension ni ly yar ham sab apky liye dil sy dua krty inshallah visa hi aye gaa. Sab ka no objection just visa inshallah.

  • family viza

    Anam insh Allah mil jye ga .

  • family viza

    aoa horiya ap plz sb se pehly late entry ki file bnavye ishtam farosh se us k bad uc walun se sign kervaye or phr 2 witness se jo ap ko janty ho pher chairmn se attest kevaye us k bad tehsildar se and phr ac se wo ap ko madical k ly bhejy ga distric hospital madical kervany k bad ac k pass wo uc walun ko hukam.nama jari kry ga k in ko birthcertifcate jari kry. ik bat ka ka khial rakhna k ap k pehly se entry na ho phr double entry ka bi objection laga dy gy .

    • Hooriya

      thanks alot for the info :) Meny puchna tha k mein cantt mein rehti hn or yahn uc ni hta hai cantt board hta hai to uss ka idea hai ap ko k un se sign krwanay hn gy ya ni ? Ya mein cantt mein kis se pura process puch sakti hn birth certificate bnany ka embassy k lye?

      • family viza

        yar phr mujy is ka to nahi pta hia mian ap ko ghalt guide na kr dun. capricorn ap ko ager pta hia to share kr dy. mian ne apny village se banvaya tha is ka mian ne ap ko share ker dia

      • Capricorn

        Mainy recently cantt board sa banwaya hai ap cantt board visit kry wo apko form dy gy 2 pages ka hai…….form k sath ap na ek affidavit lgna hai ( bayan e halfi) apny father ya mother ki taraf sa hna che or unk id card pa address b usi cantt area ka hna che…or yeh affidavit senior magistrate attest kry ga name stamp lgy gi es pa uski…2 witness k id card ki copy usi area k or house tax ki copy.
        3 days k time sa bna daty and make sure one thing k apki phly koi b entry na hui ho
        …Good luck

        • Hooriya

          Thank you so much… Allah ham sb ki mushkil asaan kary or visa lgay sb ka inshaAllah :) :)

          • Capricorn

            Ameen Jazakhallah……..

          • Hooriya

            Capricorn & family viza: Meny aj apnay father se pucha unho ne mjay btaya k mera birth certificate bna hua hai lakin woh gum gya hai to I have to make a new one :( :( Ab meny yeh puchna hai k ager birth certificate phelay bna hua ho to uss ka kya process hga ??

          • Capricorn

            To apny father sa pochy k kis office main registration krwai thi uder ja k unk register main search kry jis year main ap peda hui hai us year k registor or month main agar to mil jay to uski computerized copy niklwa ly or agar na mily to new banway ly but confirm kr lna k kesi b tra double entry na show ho

          • Hooriya

            thanks alot.. Allah pak ham sb ki mushkil asaan kary.. Aesa lagta hai embassy khaali pari hai wahan koi kaam krnay wala ni hai sb vacations pr gaye huey hain :( :(

          • Hooriya

            Capricorn: Mjay birth certificate to mil gya hai lakin woh urdu mein bna hua hai jb k embassy ki website pr likha hai original NADRA computerized birth certificate. Mjay apnay birth certificate ko convert krwana hga? Or sath mein spouse k birth certificate ko bhi convert krana hga nadra se? Thanks :)

          • Capricorn

            Ji jis jagha sa urdu wala form bna hai wahan ji k computerize k ly application dy or urdu waly main jo serial no. Hai usk against register pa entry b check kr ly k manual main mistake to ni koi.

          • Capricorn

            Ji spouse ka b che computerize ……….. nadra sa ni bnta jis cantt ya union council sa urdu ka bna hua uder hi applicatuon dani hti hai

          • Hooriya

            Thanks alot… Allah kary yeh week achi news laye :) :)

  • family viza

    aoa hiader ap ko abh walun ne kia kaha hia k ap ki report pakistan se ok hia jo reply ap ko abh walun ne dia hia wo hi same mery husband ko kaha hia leken call nahi a rehi pata nahi kia masla hia.

    • haider

      abh ne kaha k aap ki verification ok ho gayi hai hum ne embassy ko NOC send ker diya hai,aur aap ki biwi ko visa k liye bulaya jaye ga,

  • family viza

    is ka mtlab hia k ab objection ka koi dar nahi hia Allah viza call a jye to tension khtam ho jye gi

    • Capricorn

      Family viza INSHAALLAH Jaldi call aa jy gi ab inquiry k ktny time k baad abh walo k pass embassy na ok ki report send ki hai? Or objection k baad ktns time lgta??

  • family viza

    yar her file ka apna in ka time hia mery pass to 6 weeks or 4 months ka case pata tha objection k bad lagaty hian . mery sath acdmy mian 2 larkia thi ik k objection k bad 6 weeks bad viza mila ik ko 4 month bad. mery 4 month complete ho gy mery husband ne last friday ko pta kia to us ne kaha k in ki abi report muj tk nahi ponchi hia jiasy hi ok hoti hia mian viza ok ker dun gi . us ne yeh bi kaha hia k jb ap ne paper jama kervaye hian objection k humy bi ik set mil gaya hia. leken rush ki wajah se ik week wait ker ly mian ne embassy ko mial ki hia wo ap ki report send kerty hian to ap ko mian bta dun gi. duha kerna yar yeh ok ker dy.

  • family viza

    haider ki.to ok ho gi . humy shead is week kuch bata dy. Allah kry yar hum sb ka msla hall jo jye

  • family viza

    22 may ko lawyer aya tha leken abi tk inu ne abh walun ko.report send nahi ki hia. abh walun ne kaha hia k objection k bad 4 month mian viza a jata hia rush ki wajah se
    ya 2 week late ho sakta

  • Anam

    Ameen.yar mery husband 5 feb ko abh gye thy interwie k liye usky bad dobara pta krny k liye gye 5 may ko to abh waly kehty hy k hamny 5 march ka sab ok kr k Pakistan bej diya hy unsy pochy q n visa dy rhy.or jab main embassy cal kr k pochti hun to wo kehty hy abi prosses main hy file wait kry haddd ho gye yar main kiua kro kuch smj ni attta.

  • Anam

    Slam too all.kiya hal chal hy sab ka ✈??? sari rat mujy to dreams aty hy.??????

  • family viza

    Oh yar anam main open kerti gia website mian ne kaha lo anam.ko comment viza call a gia us ko . Leken so sad yar aj to bus last day tha Allah sun ly humari hiasy imran ki suni

    • Capricorn

      Mujhy b yehi lga tha k anam ko visa call aa gi hope for the next week ☺ naya pakistan to ban k but hum sab ki wohi wish hai ???? plz Allah help us

  • Anam

    Take eassy guys.sab Allah py chor diya ziyada gam krny wala b Allah ka mushrik hy.yar ab hi to niyaa Pakistan bna hy kuch din reh lo iss niyaa Pakistan main phir to fainilly inshallah chlly hi jana hy deautchland. Inshallah bas ab hmara visa any wala hy shoping kro or tiyari pakroo German jany ki ??????????

  • Rameez

    Jab visa collection hoti he .
    Wo.insurance to nai mangte

  • Anam

    Ni just passport. No any insurance and etc . Jab cal ati hy too wo clearlly bta dety hy k konsy dacuments chahye visaa cal ayee to sahi. Phir jo bola wo sab ly jayee gy???????. Ajj sy Monday ka visa cal wait start???? or ham phir pagal ban jaty hy. Yarr iss visa ny too hmy ?????????????

    • Ayesha

      Kisi ko time py b vissa Mila h kbhi ?? 6 month k andr?

      • Rameez

        Mujhe visa cal ayi he 1 month k andar

        • Capricorn

          Rameez plz clear kry jb abh file gi usk one month baad???

        • family viza

          Aoa rameez ap ko kb ayi hia viza call? Kia.abh se clear huny k one month plz share kry

        • Ayesha

          Kb ai ? Kya process RHA apka….yr jsko b visa call ayw wo inform kry …or ik e msg ma apna process likh dya kry k kb file summit hoi etc like applied on that. …lawyer vists …..AbH letter…then visa call received that month …ta k Baki members b apko bar bar mag kr k tease na kry k Kya prices that etc ik e msg ma Sab likh dya kro detail …thanjs

  • Anam

    Yes ayesha jab main file submit krwany gi thi to waha kafi logo sy mulaqat hoi jinko with in 6 months mila hy visa or hmari faimly main to almost 4 maheeny hi visa lg gye.or main ab sara hisaab dy rhi hun mera lg hi ni rha.let see

  • Rameez

    Mery pyary behno kuch chezen bnda public nai kr sakta hota itna bta dun..
    K apply krne k 1 mahiney baad visa collection ki cal or email aa gayi.

  • Rameez

    Or mere btane ka matlb ye tha k german embassy jaan buj k late nai krti bus un ka kam krne ka trika thora different he.jis ji wja se un ka processes thora lamba hota bus aap.thande demagh se hosla krain or inshallah jo.aap k liye best ho ga embassy aap k liye wo kr rahi he..
    Don’t wory..

    • Hooriya

      Wese boht hi alag tareeka ha kaam krnay ka k 4 months se appointment ni di hai.. Itna to ksi embassy mein ni hta hai :( :(

  • Anam

    Hooriyaa mery cazan ny ny january ki mail ki thi for termin so fainlly ab 15 july ko wo file submit krwa k aya jab cal kr k embassy sy pocha to wo kehty hy k pehly hi bohat ziyada files hy or rush bohat hy so jab tak 2017 walo ko visa ni dy sakty tab tak bohat slow prosses hy apointmet ka.almost with in 6 months baqi jab qismat sath dy too kam dino main ban jaty hy jab allah fazal kry too.

    • Hooriya

      Ameen.. Mery husband k friend ki wife ne January mein interview dya tha or un ka visa march k end mein hi agaya tha itni jaldi… We can only hope for the best.

      • Rameez

        3 month appointment pe lagte hain…
        Ye hmare liye best he..
        Aap ko pta he is se pahle keya hota tha last year change huwa he .
        Pura pura saal log raat ko 12 bje appointment dekhte the or book krte krte koi.or book kr leta tha main poora sal zaleel huwa hub..
        Jo.appointment se tang hain un k liye itna hi bolun ga k.ye aap k liye easy shuker kro khuda ka

      • Rameez

        Inshallah jab aap sab ko visa mil jaye ga aap sab khud hi treef kro ge..

  • Zeba

    A.o.a mera marriage certificate me problem Aya ha inquiry k lye jo officer aye tha usne btaya k mera marriage certificate dusre UC se bna hoa jbke nikah kisi or Uc me register ha or dusra mera birth certificate p date of birth 97 ha jbke baqi sb documents p 98 ha usne uc se bhi check us me bhi 97 ha usne ye umeed dilaye the k wo visa reject nhi hone de ga time le de ga usne kaha tha k wo file se mera birth certificate or marriage certificate nikal de ga .nd ap 2 months wait kro 2 months se zada time hogia ha abhi tk koi reply nhi ha koi bta skta ha or kitna time lge ga reply ane ka or agr birth or marriage certificate nikal dega to kia reply askta ha embassy se or abhi tk embassy ne passport bhi nhi lia. Plzzz reply if any one know.

    • Capricorn

      Wsalam zeba visa reject hna b ni hai objection lg sakta hai es pa phr ap correction krwao gi mery case main inqury k 3 months k baad email ae thi objection ki

      • Zeba

        Agr objection lgi to mjhe kia krna hoga? Or kia mjhe visa mil jaye ga?

        • Zeba

          Inquiry officer ne kaha tha k me sb ok ki report di ha …chances nhi hn k birth or marriage certificate srf mange kion usne kaha tha k me dono nikal dnga phr agr wo mange to me srf birth or marriage certificate theek krwa k de dn?

  • Anam

    Aoa zeba app ny kab file submit krwai thi.

    • Zeba

      W/S mene Oct me file submit krwaye the online nikah ki wjah se power of attorney mangi the wo krwate krwate 6 months lg gye phr wo documents march me submit krwaye the.

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