By:
Abdul Majid Malik <majid.malik[@]yahoo.com>;
Dear Members Assalam-o-Alaikum,
I am writing this email to let members know few things about family reunion and some mistakes which must be avoided. If some friend is going to get married in Pakistan, please tell him/her about these issues. Simple looking mistakes can cause big trouble and delay later in family reunion.
About Nikah Registration:
Registration of Nikah involves three people: Nikah Khawan, Nikah Registrar and Union council. UC gives a register with 50 leaves to Nikah-Registrar. Each leave contains Nikah Nama ” Form II” in quadruplicate. In one UC , only a single Registrar can have the register. In usual case, Nikah Khawan goes to Registrar(if he is himself not a registrar) and gets a Nikah nama Form II (which has fours copies). One copy each (filled and signed) is given to Duhla, Dulhan,Registrar and UC.
1. Take care that Nikah is registered at the same Union Council where Nikah has taken place .Address written on filled Nikahnama should be in the UC where Nikah is registered. Any thing different to this created big problem for many ,especially those who did Nikha in a Marriage Hall and brought Molvi sahib from some other UC. If you made this mistake, count a delay of at least 3 months. Embassy will raise objection as the lawyer sent for Marriage verification would like to see your Nikah registered at the same UC as address written on Nikahnama. You may be to asked to change registration of your marriage from one UC to other through a court procedure in Pakistan.
2. Please closely check all the four copies of the filled Nikah-Nama for any mistake in names, ID card nr., date of birth etc. Check that all signatures are there at right place and stamp of Nikah-Registrar is present. Many take things lightly in Pakistan while filling forms.
3. Telephonic Nikah is big no no. You must be present there as German Embassy/consulate now checks it from entry and exit stamps on your passport. If there are some unavoidable circumstances, give a written power of attorney which has legal value i.e signed in front of Notary Public/judge or from Pakistani embassy/consulate (in case they deal with it) to your father to represent you during Nikah. Better be present there. Your absence will complicate the matters and hence the delay/rejection as a consequence.
5. Some people I talked to have made mistake while getting online appointment. You mad a mistake in name, passport number or email address than most probably you will not be able to submit documents on that day. In my experience, if you decide to take an appointment for family reunion, you normally get it after 4 to 6 weeks. So missing an appointment can be source of further delay.6. The interview by lawyer or at embassy may involve basic questions from your spouse about you. Newly married; make sure he/she has all the basic info about you.
7. Spouse of a Blue Card holder is exempted from providing A-1 German language certificate. About this, don’t believe on what they say on phone :). If your spouse can’t manage to do a language course in Pakistan, present following reference of the concerned Law as proof on your appointment day:
http://www.bluecard-eu.de/eu-blue-card-germany/residence-act/spouse.html
http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/aufenthg_2004/__30.html
8. In some cities, there were cases when Ausländerbehorde(ABH) objected that the spouse in Germany is passing through the probation period of job. In some cities ,they ask for salary slips of 6 months while in others only for 3 months or just a job contract. Talk to other Pakistanis/Indians who have experience of dealing with the same ABH so that you can proceed accordingly.
Please correct if I am wrong on any account. The info is based on posts of members on this forum, experiences of acquaintances and my personal experience.
If you know some other issues which you or someone known to you faced, kindly share on this forum. This will facilitate others in their family reunion.
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Hello.. did anybuddy got appointment these days. I have applied on 27th sep 2018 and still waiting..anybuddy who has applied in september last year?
Allahumdulillah Got visa Call today after long wait
Allah pak sub ki mushkily asan farmy
after how long did you get visa?
Me 11 may 2018 appointment ka aply kra 12 Dec ko interview howa 12 Feb ko lawyer aya 23 Lawyer ny dobra vist kia phir 23 April ko ABH se Letter aya. Phir 15 may Got visa call Allahumdulillah Allah sub ki wish puri kry
Do we change the house to other town? During Embassy Lawyer Visit expected ? From one union council to another union council for new house?
Does it have impact or any other problem to shift house to another town?
Hello admin
I had my interview on 25th June 2019, lawyer’s visit in August and ABH verification in july. Its been 7 months since interview, still waiting for reply from embassy. Any update how much time these days they take after interview?
Apko ABH sy kia letter aya tha.? After lawyer process?
Many congratulations.
Willkommen in Deutschland!
Thanks ??
Allah Sub Ko kamyab kry
Finally got my visum
Plz tell us about embassy test
Papers submit karwanay k baad kitnay mahenay lagay visa mil nay mei?
I didn’t give my test and my case is very old i submitted my documents in april 2017 and then B.C issue and it took 6 months for decree my bad luck and then after submission of that again inquiry and then interview in november 2018 now got my visa in my case most of the time persons who were handling my case they were on vecation one ABH sent an answer to embassy but embassy didn’t get it. So whole process again took 6 months then went to embassy after visa call on 9th of this month but visa was issued on old passport so submitted my passport again the new one and within 7 days they sent it via courrier with visa stamp
Congratulation fadi .thanks to Allah almighty ap ko viza mila . Ap sb se purany thy forum pe . Allah k han dher hia Andher nahi
Hello koi yeh bata sakta hai kai Abh say letter anay k kitmy time baad visa milta hai ?
No specific time period… But within 6_ 8 months of interview
Mujy visa call ai 3 weeks bad
many people are getting visa these days… Congratulations/
Got appointment email after almost 8 months. Its 25th june.
wow that’s a long time!!!..
make sure your documents are in order so you will get your visa soon. After appointment it usually takes 4-6 months.
Thank you admin. Yea it was a long wait. Hope everything from now onwards run smooth.
Admin can u please guide. I have applied for visa for my son too who is 7 yrs old. Wud it b considered one case and fee wud b 40000 or two cases n 80000..and secondly my wife is german national. Are we exempted frm visa fee?
if they are under one application than logically it should be 40k but to be sure ask the embassy about it they can better guide you.
If you are intending to join german or EU national spouse , no visa fee should be charged.
Regards
what did your email say? my appointment email says i have to wait up to 8 months and I booked on 1st June 2019
i have gone through all the procedure , nowjjust waiting for visa call
kis city mai aa rahi aap?
Hello all. I have a work contract to work in Munich and I want to take my wife along with me. Do you think it is possible? As far as I understand, wife cannot come until I have residence permit there.
Also, how long will it take for my wife to get the family reunion visa after first application?
yes you are right you have been issued only 6 months visa i think for job seeking. even if you are allowed to bring your wife with you please dont bring with you unless you settle here and find a good accomodation. first come here find a good job and house then save some money then after 6 months you should apply for your wife.it is personal experience
Thank you Azeem. How long it took your wife to get visa?
I already have a job and contract, so I was thinking that I could go with my wife and stay in a hotel for about a month until I find accommodation. Do you think that is a difficult way? I am worried that asking my wife to come later will result in complications and delays.
Hi All,
I have small issue in my nikkah nama. My name is written as سمن in urdu everywhere, whereas on nikkahnama its written as ثمن. and on marriage certificate union council also wrote it ثمن, because Union council guy said that he need to match marriage certificate aligned with nikkah nama. Will this create issue/objection? However, in English on marriage registration certificate, my name is spelled properly. Please share personal experiences. The issue is just in urdu name.
PS: on german embassy website, for marriage certificate it is mentioned that only english is required.
You don’t need to worry if your name in English is correct,
Best of luck
Also, is there an issue if wife signature on Nikahnama is very slightly different than on her ID card? For example, if one letter is capital in ID card but on Nikahnama it is small?
Anything on the official document change requires a court order. Perhaps just go with the one you have and see how it goes!.
i dont think you will get an exact answer and no one can tell you that if they critically start matching the signatures!
So try your luck?
Hello Saman ,
If the lawyer would compare it one to one then there is definitely a problem. The register where they put marriage entries in Union council are in URDU not in ENGLISH.
German officials wont be able to understand urdu hence the english translation but the lawyer is a local guy and for sure does. If you have time to correct it , get it corrected otherwise you can take the risk and go with this one and hope it is not noticed.
Please note: any modification after marriage certificate / birth certificate being issued must be done through the correct court orders.
Our opinion doesn’t hold any legal value & we dont accept any liabilities which arise.
Hi. Admin could u please guide about the process. I submitted my documents in embassy on 25th june 2019 and my wife was called for an interview in ABH today. Lawyer has not yet visited us here yet. Is it possible to send file to ABH without inquiry here first? Concerned person in ABH said she will send file back end of this week. So is that it? Thats how it is normally i think. No?
I am a blue card holder,and i want to know is there any way to skip the waiting time for the appointment of my family, i have emailed the embassy but no reply yet.
No, being a blue card holder only gives you exemption with A1. You have to follow the same process.
Hi, I got to know that some people got appointment through Lawyer. It is worth a shot. Well you have nothing to lose.
can you tell me more about it? and how much is the lawyer fee?
I already tried it. it costed 500 euros, Embassy is not responding to the lawyer also nowaday. Lawyer need some very strong medical grounds like pregnancy or something of critical sickness nature. I see some similarity in your case to mine(as I am also on Blue-Card and with very high Income). But Embassy does not care about any of these things.
Hello
My husband has applied for family reunion visa and i have a daughter who is 2 years old, but the embassy is not replying to any email to speed up the process,
he has applied on 1st June 2019, does it always take 1 year for visa?
it will take 10 months to get appointments after that willbe proceeded for viasa.
then 6 months for the visa process?
i think these days taking longer
what did your email say? my appointment email says i have to wait up to 8 months and I booked on 1st June 2019
i think u will get email of
appointments in december
well these days the waiting time is about 10 months. after the appoinment if all is order , process may take upto 4-6 months.
Even if you are germany and ask for extension appointment , 2 -3 months is waiting time. its not just the embassy.
but the email says it will take 8 months for the appointment.my issue is i cant wait, my baby is too young and i am the mother
I am sorry to hear about that , but that’s how it is. There is no specific rule that in such cases a emergency appointment can be given , else it would have been mentioned on their website.
Are you studying or working in Germany?
I hope , they entertain your request and issue a visa/appointment at the earliest.
i am working here, and my baby is not with me,…… she is with her father.do you have an idea about te appointments by the lawyer?
Well , some people hired a lawyer who forwarded a case to german embassy to get a emergency appointment , as far as i know some woman were pregnant and so on..
So basically you hire a lawyer , pay him and he tries to write to embassy to get you a quick appoinment.
I already tried it. it costed 500 euros, Embassy is not responding to the lawyer also nowaday. Lawyer need some very strong medical grounds like pregnancy or something of critical sickness nature. I see some similarity in your case to mine(as I am also on Blue-Card and with very high Income). But Embassy does not care about any of these things.
but isnt this a strong case that my daughter is too little to live without her mother?
I feel sorry for you. but unfortunately Embassy may not be ready to consider your (valid) point for a quicker appoint. You may speak with a Lawyer but as my Lawyer said Embassy has the (final) deciding position.
can you please share details of your lawyer, i want to try this option?
My lawyer informed me that she is not taking any more cases which may have anything to do with a German Embassy abroad.
very disappointed today , i have applied early this year in February for appointment. i have been informed in reply mail from German Embassy the waiting time for family reunion visa is currently almost 5 months. after the wait of almost 8 month i send Email to ask the reason behind ?
finally i got reply after 2 days that i have to wait to more than 10 months time ..
its really disappointing, for them its law and work. but for us its huge pain .. like cant live happily without life partner ,can’t really plan family and future. its really poor people sitting in Islamabad or they are playing politics to bound people stay in their country. staff or system both are failed . only 63 thousand Pakistani living in German whole . compare to UK,USA. where Pakistani living in millions far more faster systems. it has been 11 years i am living in Germany. never feel bad for them as i feel today . (pure Racism)
very disappointed today , i have applied early this year in February for appointment. i have been informed in reply mail from German Embassy the waiting time for family reunion visa is currently almost 5 months. after the wait of almost 8 month i send Email to ask the reason behind ?
finally i got reply after 2 days that i have to wait for more than 10 months time ..
its really disappointing, for them its law and work. but for us its huge pain .. like cant live happily without life partner ,can’t really plan family and future. its really poor people sitting in Islamabad or they are playing politics to bound people stay in their country. staff or system both are failed . only 63 thousand Pakistani living in German whole . compare to UK,USA. where Pakistani living in millions far more faster systems. it has been 11 years i am living in Germany. never feel bad for them as i feel today . (pure Racism)
Hi I want to apply visa application of my wife but I was precent on nikah and my father is wali from my side but now laywer in Pakistan asked about power of attorney to submit the visa application please help me what can I do now and if somebody have this kind of letter then please tell me
Hi, Did any body got update. My wife has been waiting for 10 months now, Still there is no Email about appointment from German Embassy.
Perhaps you can contact embassy and ask/?
Can anybody tell that after document submission to ABH how much time they take nowadays to give visa call..??
Documents submission means nothing until embassy sends them the Documents/Marriage verification!. They will only put their input in the visa application after Embassy confirms the documents.
Hi Admin, I finaly got the Email today for an Appointment. Meanwhile I have got a new passport with my husband name instead of fathers name.
what would you suggest. I don’t wish to apply for Visa Appointment with current passport number as Now the waiting time is being showed as more than an year. Do you have suggestion?
Applied for appointment in June 2018, got appointment and the end of January, lawyer verification in July and ABH verification on 20 August, still waiting for update. Last step is being dragged for almost two months now. It’s really disappointing and frustrating.
Perhaps ask the embassy again?
Hello
Kindly tell me lawyer kis cheez ki verification krny ata ha or ABH kis cheez ki
Lawyer verifies identity of both the Applicant and the Spouse. Unless identity is proved , no visa process can be done!.. ABH just checks if the spouse can be financially supported and has enough living space for example!
Have been waiting for soooo long.
Hi Sana, how long have you been waiting?
helo my name is iqra
mera sawal ye hai ke meray husband german pass holder hain aur mene islamabad embassy mein family reunion ke liye visa apply kiya huwa hay.
ab mashallah hum aik peyari see beti kay parents ban gay hain koe bta sakta hay ke isliye liye embassy mein inform karna parega aur kiya meri beti ko german i.d card kesay milay gay uske liye koe application deni hogi ya appointment deni hogikonsay doccuments jama karwanay hongay.
please agar kisi ko knowledge hay tu share karay
shukriya
https://pakistan.diplo.de/pk-en/service/2-passantrag-kind-seite/1677830
Salaam to all.m new here.after a long wait of covid 19 my visa appointment is on 17 aug submit all my documents.visa officer ask some badic questionn then give me form for home and then i submit the form on nxt day she says to me that niw you can wait until we call or email you.now i am waiting for nxt process.plz pray for me
best of luck!
SALAM ALIKUM to all of. koi bata sakta hai keh late inderaaj ka problem kesa solve hota hai?
Embassy ne objection lagaya?
G Bilkul Embassy ne objection lagay.
Objection kia hai please share in same wordings
Or email fahad276 @gmail.com
Family reunion visa
am new here Plzz koi Mjhy ye bata dy ga Ky ma appointment apny nikkah sy pahly lyli apny purany passport ky sath then an nikkah ky bad new passport bana to embassy ma koi issue to nhi hoga ya Mjhy new appointment leni parygi new passport ky sath plzz reply me ?????
Can someone tell me that I have taken appointment it from the passport before marriage, then now I have to take it with the new passport after marriage or it will also become the one with the first passport.???plzz tell me The old passport appointment will have to be approved or renewed?kindly guide me?
Are u getting proper marriage or just nikah?
And they can raise issue of different passport number. You never know about german embassy in Islamabad.They can create any issue