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Family Reunion – Pakistan – General info for all to avoid mistakes

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August 30, 2013 3 Min Read
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Abdul Majid Malik <majid.malik[@]yahoo.com>;
Dear Members Assalam-o-Alaikum,
I am writing this email to let members know few things about family reunion and some mistakes which must be avoided. If some friend is going to get married  in Pakistan, please tell him/her about these issues. Simple looking mistakes can cause big trouble and delay later in family reunion.
About Nikah Registration:
Registration of Nikah involves three people:  Nikah Khawan, Nikah Registrar  and Union council. UC gives a register with 50 leaves to Nikah-Registrar. Each leave contains Nikah Nama ” Form II” in quadruplicate. In one UC , only a single Registrar can have the register.  In usual case, Nikah Khawan goes to Registrar(if he is himself not a registrar) and gets a Nikah nama Form II (which has fours copies). One copy each (filled and signed) is given to  Duhla, Dulhan,Registrar and UC.
1. Take care that Nikah is registered at the same Union Council where Nikah has taken place .Address written on filled Nikahnama should be in the UC where Nikah is registered.  Any thing different to this created big problem for many ,especially those who did Nikha in a Marriage Hall and brought Molvi sahib from some other UC. If you made this mistake, count a delay of at least 3 months. Embassy will raise objection as the lawyer sent for Marriage verification would like to see your Nikah registered at the same UC as address written on Nikahnama. You may be to asked to change registration of your marriage from one UC to other through a court procedure in Pakistan.
2. Please closely check all the four copies of the filled Nikah-Nama for any mistake in names, ID card nr., date of birth etc. Check that all signatures are there at right place and stamp of Nikah-Registrar is present. Many take things lightly in Pakistan while filling forms.
3. Telephonic Nikah is big no no. You must be present there as German Embassy/consulate now checks it from entry and exit stamps on your passport. If there are some unavoidable circumstances, give a written power of attorney which has legal value i.e signed in front of Notary Public/judge or from Pakistani embassy/consulate (in case they deal with it) to your father to represent you during Nikah.  Better be present there. Your absence will complicate the matters and hence the delay/rejection as a consequence.
4.  Carefully read the requirements of Embassy for Family reunion. If any question arises, call embassy to get an answer. Don’t rely blindly on the info collected from here and there.
5. Some people I talked to have made mistake while getting online appointment. You mad a mistake in name, passport number or email address than most probably you will not be able to submit documents on that day. In my experience, if you decide to take an appointment for family reunion, you normally get it after 4 to 6 weeks. So missing an appointment can be source of further delay.6. The interview by lawyer or at embassy may involve basic questions from your spouse about you. Newly married; make sure he/she has all the basic info about you.

7. Spouse of a Blue Card holder is exempted from providing A-1 German language certificate. About this, don’t believe on what they say on phone :). If your spouse can’t manage to do a language course in Pakistan, present following reference of the concerned Law  as proof on your appointment day:

http://www.bluecard-eu.de/eu-blue-card-germany/residence-act/spouse.html 

http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/aufenthg_2004/__30.html

8. In some cities, there were cases when Ausländerbehorde(ABH) objected that the spouse in Germany is passing through the probation period of job.  In some cities ,they ask for salary slips of 6 months while in others only for 3 months or just a job contract. Talk to other Pakistanis/Indians who have experience of dealing with the same ABH  so that you can proceed accordingly.

Please correct if I am wrong on any account. The info is based on posts of members on this forum, experiences of acquaintances and my personal experience.

If you know some other issues which you or someone known to you faced, kindly share on this forum. This will facilitate others in their family reunion.

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  2. Salam

    Does Anyone know British or german nationals ko ABH se call or letter ata hai ? ya directly spouse ko visa mil jata hai if everything is clear from Pakistan’s end.
    agar ata hai to what is the approximate time, like after the spouse verification how much time it takes them to get a response from ABH.

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  3. birth certificate is mandatory. though the CNIC is your identity. but they check the birth record from union council that’s y it is necessary.

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  4. Aslam o alikum , It is really important for me can some one tell me that what kind of interview and questions can be asked in embassy while my wife and i got an email for the same day interview

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      1. What kind of questions they habe asked you can you please share the details and your wife was german as well and what should i have to take with my self in embassy

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          1. Okay but what type of questions they asked that was difficult or not and should i take the screenshots of our chating etc and after interview how long does it take for answer

          3. Aoa, Has anyone received lawyer call after giving an interview in October? My interview was on 12th Oct and I still haven’t received any call. :/

          5. They asked general questions.

            – First they told me to arrange all documents. Also remember to take your husband’s Pakistani ID card copy with you since it is required and it is not mentioned on their website.
            – Asked about nikkah and rukhsati date
            – Husband’s profession. When and why they went to Germany and since when they are working
            – Your own profession and future goals after going to Germany
            – They asked about the language but I said that my husband has a blue card.
            – Husband’s salary and do they send you money and if yes then how much
            – Lawyers fee is 40k and they take that during the interview so do remember to take 40k pkr with the bank notes of 5000.
            – You will have to submit the visa fees in the bank after the interview. approx. 10 min walk from the embassy

            Rest was just general information about your siblings parents occupation . The interview was in english and urdu.

            Good luck :)

          6. Hi Hooriya
            What is this lawyer fees all about?
            Is it private lawyer hire by you or is this fee compulsory by any mean?
            I don’t have any consultant / lawyer etc hired for my wife in Pakistan waiting for the visa application submission date since July

          7. Every family reunion visa applicant has to submit lawyers fees to the embassy at the time of interview and then the embassy send a lawyer to verify the whole process. Its mentioned on the website.

  5. AOA.. by the Grace of Allah i recieved visa call today Alhamdullilah.. i was a long long journey but i acomplished.. Alhamdullilah.. now they said k ap embacy ka test dy dyn ya new cirtifcate kr k dy dyn.. paper k liye novembr ki registration gizar chuki hy.. so i opt for embacy paper.. please please jinho ny is forum pr pehle embacy ka test dya hy please apna experince share kryn, k kia kia pochte hyn n kis typ ka test hota hy?? jyse A1 myn 4 portions hote hyn wysa hota hy ya differnt?? verbal myn kia pochte hyn?? seperate room myn bitha k lyte hyn test or kia scnario hota hy?? iam so worried please please please share yur experince in detail.. jazakAllah.. thanks in advance.. i ll b waiting..

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    1. Congratulations @pRanKstEr

      Pleas share your complete visa journey. From application to VIsa call with dates. Wish You very best.

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      1. file submitted in islambad embacy on 19-10-2018 with 30,000 fee… rejection regarding husbands birth cirtifcate february 2018…… did all the court process n made new cirtifcate n submitted again with 30,000 fee in august 2018……. lawyer did inquary n he submitted report in embacy on 28 or 30 september……. got visa call on 5th november 2018….. Alhamdullilah..

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        2. hello pRanKstEr apka jo test hoya wo share krn kia quetions all that you did in test nd they asked you please ….

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  6. Hallo

    Kya koi mjhe bata skta he k visa applications ma aam taur p kaun kaun c ghaltyan hti hain jinki wajha s process delay hojata he. Is article main jo likha he uske ilawa . Personal experience ho jiska woh b bta de. Bht shukrya hoga .

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  8. Assalamaleikum everyone

    Does anybody know if it’s going to be quicker if the wife is a German national and husband lives in Pakistan? Is there going to be an interview for the spouse in Pakistan or is it same as it is with both spouses who have Pakistani passport? Is it different or the same. Koi same situation ma ha?

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  10. Yesterday, alhamdulillah got visa call for my daughter. It was a long journey from July 2017 till now. But thanks to Allah almighty and prayers of friends and family that finally
    Its done.

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      1. Congratulations Ahmad,
        I applied in July 2017 than got objection in Jan 2018 than we submitted the papers again in April 2018 with again 30000 fees. Lawyer came for second enquiry on 3rd May. Embassy sent documents for final approval to abh in September. Abh sent back the approval last week. And yesterday by God’s grace we got visa call. Now I Don know, we have to buy travel health insurance or not? If any body knows about it. Please share. Jazakallah AL khair.

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        1. My wife asked them for travelling insurance, they said it’s not needed. If it would have been compulsory for you they would have asked. So do not worry about it. I wish you all the best. Which, the city you will be travelling to?

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        2. congrats.. bot khushi hui sun k.. mujko 2nd enquary k 1 month k bad call aa gyi t visa ki.. or ABH myn submit krany k 3 din bad i recievd visa call.. 2 din weeknd k embacy close hoti hy to 3 din bad ee Alhamdullilah.. apko A1 submit krany ka to ni kaha embacy ny?? apki beti ny kb A1 kia tha pass?? koi idea dy dyn Embacy k test ka.. plz

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          1. Thanks. Meri daughter ny A1 nahi Kia kyun KY Wo 15 Saal ki thi jub hum NY visa apply Kia. Till 16, there is no need to do A1.
            Aap pareshaan naa hoon. Youtube sy search ker lain. Bohat saari videos Pari hain wahan to prepare A1.
            Ye mushkil nahi hy. Aap ko basic question ki samaj aani chahiey bas.

        1. Thanks Sara, inshallah you will also get the visa call soon. Have faith and keep praying. Prayers matters a lot.

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  11. Hello members,

    I need help, I applied family reunion visa for my wife and upon asking the status from behörde I received an email stating that visa for my wife is rejected and the reason is I am a student.

    Is there anyone with the same experience or someone knows what I should do next?

    Your help is needed.

    Regards.

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    1. Yaar main b student hn meri wife ko visa mila hai aj.8 months lag gae visa milne main.Ap language Student ho ya university student?

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      1. Syed Shabee ul Hassan can u please help me i want to consult to you to clear some of my points about whole journey from student visa to family reunion visa. can you please help me by providing some info.

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  13. Aoa my husband has been asked to sibmit documents depite of the fact that lawyer has not yet visited here in Pakistan . Has anyone else experienced same situation? Kindly tell me Is it normal?

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        1. pls koe bta sakta hay k. jab lawyer inquiry karney ata hay tu wo k8s cheez ki inquiry karta hay aur kya kya sawal karta hay aur application submit karwanay k kitni der baad inquiry karnay ata hay lawyer aur doccuments kab bhejtay hain gernany ALB. ko husband ki inquiry k liye
          pls share
          thank you

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          1. Ap ne kb interview dia? My interview was in november but no lawyer has visited yet. What about you?

          3. Can you please also share your cities? I think time period of the visit of lawyer has some thing to do with cities.

          5. i don’t know but i had a feeling that Lawyer visits only when they have few applicants from that city.

            we haven’t had the appointment in embassy yet.

  14. Salam,

    Has anyone applied visa for parents? what are chances if I m Swedish citizen, living in Grérmany? for the same situation, I have a couple of questions: What does birth certificate invalid mean if issued by Nadra/Union Council? why do we need to get first cancelled and get a later entry via EDO health? How long does this take? If the old Marriage certificate could not be verified, how to recover from there?
    Please guide if anyone has experience?

    thanks
    Syed

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  15. Salam everyone,

    Does it happen to anyone that embassy has asked to correct the birth certificate and submit the documents by certain date. But before date they call you to come and get the visa stamped!! ? I have a little problem in my birth certificate and embassy has asked me to get it coŕrected and submit it by 30th nov, but today they called and ask me to come for visa? I am very confused.

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  16. if the embassy called then there is no issue , it depends on what was the error or mistake in your birth certificate and you need to be happy

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        1. they asked me to submit 6 months salary slips, apartment contract, letter from health insurance office, letter from social security office, employer letter, and form to fill.

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  18. Hello kindly tell after enquiry from lawyer and ABH approx how much time is taken by embassy for further processing

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        1. Will be travelling to Frankfurt in mid dec. No idea, lawyer visited us in july after we submitted the documents. And they called us for visa in november start.

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          1. how to confirm that ABH verification has been done? you submitted the documents and got call in the same week??

    1. Lawyer visited on 13th nov and my husband was asked to submit doc on 15th. Is it possible to receive visa call that quick

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    1. I did that in standesamt Hmaburg but i have still no answer whether a document verification….why it takes soo long i submitt my papers and from my husband on june but still no inquiry how is ur case…i am full stressed…

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  22. Can anyone tell me are there any questions asked while giving the visa? in german or in general any questions? or they just give you the visa without asking anything?

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    1. if your spouse is a Blue card holder then they don’t ask any questions while giving the Visa, otherwise they do ask Questions (Didn’t experience this)

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      1. Good to hear that. My husband is also blue card holder he born in Pakistan too but i didn’t submitted his birth certificate as he had not nadra certificate, but embassy didnt raise any question on that nor does the verification guy.
        Verfication guy was good he cleared my birthcertificate as well although my certificate was registered in a wrong UC. but he did a favor to me for that and he verified it from that UC and cleared it.
        But I am still waiting for my husband’s verification from Germany. Rest is done from Pakistan.

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  23. Salam….mai ny august se appointment k liye apply kiya hua but still no response…kya yahan koi hy jis ny aug mai apply liya ho or still apointment ni mili please reply ?kisi ko aj kal mai appointment mail ayi hy?? I am new here

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  24. Alhamdulilah got Visa after 1 year 5 months.. Giving others an overview as it might help them

    * Went for first Visa Appointment in July 2017
    * Lawyer verified everything on September 2017
    * Embassy raised objection on December 2017. Husband and Wife’s birth certificate (Entry was Late and Age assessment was missing).
    * Went to Court and got my our Birth Certificates corrected. Also at the same time i asked Auslanderbehorde to not consider my birth certificate as i was in Berlin and a blue card holder and they agreed to not consider my Birth Certificate for my wife’s case but i am suppose to submit it later onwards once my wife was here in Berlin with me. Auslanderbehorde also asked me for all the documents at this point (It was March 2018)
    * Submitted the newly created wife’s birth certificate with 30,000 PKR verification fee in April 2018 to embassy.
    * Lawyer verified everything in June 2018 but didn’t come to home. He only visited the UC for verification.
    * In start of November 2018 after repeated emails to embassy asking them about status of my wife, They finally told me that my document verification was complete and that they asked Auslanderbehorde for final approval.
    * On 15th November 2018, Wife finally got call to collect Visa.
    * On 27th October she went to embassy with her passport and collected the visa.

    This was a very long and tiring process. Everyone hang in there.
    Especially the ones which got objection. Once you submit documents after objection then think of it as starting the process again.

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  25. Anyone has any info related to what else other than the visa is required when spouse travels on family reunion visa to Germany.

    For example: When i went on work Visa they wanted to see whether i had protector on my passport.
    Does my wife need anything else like travel insurance or Polio certificate before my wife can board the airplane to Germany ?

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    1. Hi Maryam, I don’t think anybody received an appointment. There is a group in Facebook where people post regularly if they got a le appointment or not or if you have any questions regarding family reunion visa from Isb. It’s called Family reunion visa for Germany. Just search it on Facebook. There are a lot of people waiting for an appointment. Best of luck!!

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  27. Hello,
    My family received call for VISA today Alhumdullilah. :)
    we applied for appointment in December 2017, documents submitted on 28th March 2018. Lawyer visiter 13th August 2018, Documents submitted to Ausländerbehorde on 20th November 2018. Received visa call on 5th December 2018 :)
    I am a Blue card holder and there was no objection in the case.

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  28. W slam . Mubarak ho bhut bhut . Mian ne aj forum cheak kia kitny dino bad shukar hia ap ki family ko bi viza mil gaya hia . Kb call ayi? Allah naqi sb ki bi muskil asan kry. Fadi ki khas tor pe wo sb se forum.pe purana hia . Best of luck all of u

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