By:
Abdul Majid Malik <majid.malik[@]yahoo.com>;
Dear Members Assalam-o-Alaikum,
I am writing this email to let members know few things about family reunion and some mistakes which must be avoided. If some friend is going to get married in Pakistan, please tell him/her about these issues. Simple looking mistakes can cause big trouble and delay later in family reunion.
About Nikah Registration:
Registration of Nikah involves three people: Nikah Khawan, Nikah Registrar and Union council. UC gives a register with 50 leaves to Nikah-Registrar. Each leave contains Nikah Nama ” Form II” in quadruplicate. In one UC , only a single Registrar can have the register. In usual case, Nikah Khawan goes to Registrar(if he is himself not a registrar) and gets a Nikah nama Form II (which has fours copies). One copy each (filled and signed) is given to Duhla, Dulhan,Registrar and UC.
1. Take care that Nikah is registered at the same Union Council where Nikah has taken place .Address written on filled Nikahnama should be in the UC where Nikah is registered. Any thing different to this created big problem for many ,especially those who did Nikha in a Marriage Hall and brought Molvi sahib from some other UC. If you made this mistake, count a delay of at least 3 months. Embassy will raise objection as the lawyer sent for Marriage verification would like to see your Nikah registered at the same UC as address written on Nikahnama. You may be to asked to change registration of your marriage from one UC to other through a court procedure in Pakistan.
2. Please closely check all the four copies of the filled Nikah-Nama for any mistake in names, ID card nr., date of birth etc. Check that all signatures are there at right place and stamp of Nikah-Registrar is present. Many take things lightly in Pakistan while filling forms.
3. Telephonic Nikah is big no no. You must be present there as German Embassy/consulate now checks it from entry and exit stamps on your passport. If there are some unavoidable circumstances, give a written power of attorney which has legal value i.e signed in front of Notary Public/judge or from Pakistani embassy/consulate (in case they deal with it) to your father to represent you during Nikah. Better be present there. Your absence will complicate the matters and hence the delay/rejection as a consequence.
5. Some people I talked to have made mistake while getting online appointment. You mad a mistake in name, passport number or email address than most probably you will not be able to submit documents on that day. In my experience, if you decide to take an appointment for family reunion, you normally get it after 4 to 6 weeks. So missing an appointment can be source of further delay.6. The interview by lawyer or at embassy may involve basic questions from your spouse about you. Newly married; make sure he/she has all the basic info about you.
7. Spouse of a Blue Card holder is exempted from providing A-1 German language certificate. About this, don’t believe on what they say on phone :). If your spouse can’t manage to do a language course in Pakistan, present following reference of the concerned Law as proof on your appointment day:
http://www.bluecard-eu.de/eu-blue-card-germany/residence-act/spouse.html
http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/aufenthg_2004/__30.html
8. In some cities, there were cases when Ausländerbehorde(ABH) objected that the spouse in Germany is passing through the probation period of job. In some cities ,they ask for salary slips of 6 months while in others only for 3 months or just a job contract. Talk to other Pakistanis/Indians who have experience of dealing with the same ABH so that you can proceed accordingly.
Please correct if I am wrong on any account. The info is based on posts of members on this forum, experiences of acquaintances and my personal experience.
If you know some other issues which you or someone known to you faced, kindly share on this forum. This will facilitate others in their family reunion.
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Aslamu Alikam enquiry bohat mubarak hoo apko Allhamdulillah allah baberkat kry khushiyaa naseeb kry.bohat khushi hoi apky visa ka sun ky
Walaikum Asalam Anam
Alhamdulillah! bs ALLAH ka shukar hai aur meray parents aur ghar walon ki duaon ki wjha say ho gya wrna humain to lg rha tha abhi 6 mahenay aur lgain gay laikin ALLAH nay sabab bna diia …… ALLAH sb ki mushkilaat aur rukawaton ko door farmayain ameen ….
humain pta hai kay kitna mushkil wqt hta hai bs ALLAH sb ko sabar aur brdasht day ameen sumameen
Hello Enquiry no one answering my question can you please tell me that jb apko visa k lye cal aye to apse kia kia lane k lye bola nd jb ap gye apse german or English language me interview lia gia any written or oral interview ? visa dena se pehle ?please share your experience
Dear Aqib,
My wife actually applied for Visa but me and my wife sent almost 15 to 20 emails to embassy and never got any reply and also made many calls to embassy…
My wife did not need to show German language skills as i have blue card here so fortunately we got a relief.
They did not ask us to bring any thing else than Passport and Meldebescheinigung (city registration letter) as previous one was expired.
Thats it, other than this its all because of the prayers of our parents and family otherwise we were not expecting that quick this time.
Keep praying dear…. May ALLAH ease the way and help you in overcoming this problem. I can understand its really hard as i spent also more than 1 year in this phase but fortunately by the grace of ALLAH the issue got solved and my wife got the visa.
@Enquiry you said your submitted attested Birth Certificate from foreign office. Who told you to do that ? Which foreign office are you talking about ?
Hi Enquiry congratulations, I just want to confirm didn’t the inquiry was placed for you 2nd time no lawyer came to see the b.certificate again and you got the visa call ?
@fadi: No there was no verification done atleast the lawyer did not contact us. But while submitting the documents they clearly said to us that verification is done.
Thank you bro, for giving us information and you are lucky one because most of the times they do inquiry but it vary from individual to individual and case to case , my inquiry was done and still no response from any side and it’s 3 months now,
fadi: In my case too it took almost more than 1 year for the procedure. How much time its already been in ur case ?
Hi Enquiry, you said you submitted the Foreign Office attested birth certificate to embassy? Can you please tell me which foreign office attested them ? Also who told you to get them attested ?
@Sheraz: Nobody told me to get them attested but it is usually good if you submit an attested document because then there are least chances of objection. Minister of Foreign Affairs attests the documents and mostly it is a good practice to get the documents attested before submitting them to the Embassy.
Assalam o Alaikum everyone here , Hope your all well and happy.
I would like find out what are the requirements for a British citizens to sponsor his wife and/or elderly dependent(mother/father) to Germany.
Germany Embassy response is very computer generic email centric and does not really respond to individual emails in details.
Is it true there is an exception for EU nationals spouse, of, German language A1 requirement?
Any help/links you provide is appreciated.
Kind regards
Asif
Yes asif i got visa yesterday my husband and daughters are british nationals .A1 is not required for british nationals spouses…when you apply for appointment tell them that you are british nationals spouse they will ask you to send picz of your spouse and kids they will give you appointment as soon as possible
I got visa after 5 months alhamdolillah…
Congratulation Fatima
Thanku fadi?……Allah Tala ap k liye bht asanian karen ameen.
salam Fatima sista
kya apke husband ki bhi enquiry hue thi Pakistan se ya germany se hue thi?
G nhi iqra mery husband ko bulaya nhi hai may be online hi inquiry ki ho unho ny…mery husband 4 times abh gaey thy to unho ny ye hi kaha tha k pakistan sy abhi tak koi reply nhi aya.
actually meray husband german national hain pata nahi kitni der lagaingay
@Sheraz
Try to explain your difficult situation to Embassy and tell them how much worry you are.. Same happenuted to us that the lawyer made a mess about the Birth Certificates and just due to that i had to go to Pakistan.
Did you submit the new birth certificates after attestation from Foreign Office or not ???
@Enquiry
i went and did all that and submitted the documents as well back in April 2017 and haven’t heard anything from embassy since then, All they say is that our case is in process and will be handled in chronological order. Which i know now is not true at all.
BTW you got the documents attested by Foreign ministry of Pakistan or Foreign ministry of Berlin ?
Did the embassy reply to you politely when you asked for status updates through email or call. Any pointers on how to prioritise this now
@Enquiry:
I also always got the same status updates as you got or getting …. Then after lawyer”s visit in Jan 2018 i got the objection in June 2018. The it took me almost 2.5 months to get our birth certificates cancelled and to make new one. We just followed the way as embassy mentioned to us. In between we were also confirming the procedures from Embassy time to time. Because we did not want to have any issues again.
Beside all this to be honest our parents and families were really praying alot and i am convinced that prayers do ease your way…. Keep praying bro……
I can understand how difficult the time is as i also waited really long to get it done but ALHAMDULILLAH ALHAMDULILLAH finally my wife got visa. InshaALLAH your wife will get that too.
I would suggest keep asking Embassy time to time on phone about your application status..
Keep praying inshaALLAH inshaALLAH you will get good news soon.
@Sheraz:
I got the documents and their copies attested from Ministry of Foreign Affairs Islamabad.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Important Information <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Please submit the documents after getting them attested from Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
e.g.
Birth Certificates
Nikah Nama
Marriage Certificate
FRC (If possible)
Try to get your documents attested before submission,it will possibly speed up the process as it lowers the responsibility of Embassy to verify each document.
They won’t reply to the calls and status for the case did they give you reply to time to time when ever you asked them or they are just against of me i haven’t tried even to send them email once i did it but never get back any reply from their side
They dont reply to anyone, the only email i got from them was the objection on my birth certificate.
Late entry means your date of birth was registered after 7 and more than 7 years? is it so?
Please confirm.
G nhi iqra mery husband ko bulaya nhi hai may be online hi inquiry ki ho unho ny…mery husband 4 times abh gaey thy to unho ny ye hi kaha tha k pakistan sy abhi tak koi reply nhi aya.
iska matlab huwa jinki nationality german ya European ho tu unki enquiry nahi hot?
I think kabhi german nationals ko bhi nhi bulaty inquiry k liye…kuch pta nhi hota abh walon ka
Fatima sista
ye Darood tanjeena kab aur kitni martaba parhna hai aur akelay ya sab ke saath milkar parh sakte hain?
Iqra Ap zohar ki namaz k baad start karen pori family parh lain mil k beshak 2 ya 3 days lg jaen ya phir ghar aurton bula lain parhny k liye khud bhi sath baithen parhen.
aur agar akeli hee parhloon tou?
You can read it alone as well. I would recommend torecite it after esha prayer. Offer 2 nawafil and ask Allah to give reward of these nawafil to Rasool pak (SAW) and His family. Afterwards starting reciting till fajr prayer. In sha Allah Allah will hear upon your appeal. It may take 4-5 days to recite alone but its really effective.
I made my frc online.. embassy will accept it??
Yes it will accept it.
Kisi ny april main apply kiya ho ya may k 1st week main or usko visa mila ho? I am so much worried, ku nahi aa raha visa…april waly applicants k tou 6 months complete hogye hain :-(
Someone applied in second week of april and got appoitnment of november i dont know the exact date
i applied in second week of may but did not get appointment yet.
My wife applied visa on 12 December 2017. Its been around 10 months, no answer from embassy tried to contact many times. Also, no objection so far.
Hi ali…inquiry done from both sides or not? I applied in 27dec2017 got objection in april submitted document again in july but my husband inquiry is still pending…no further updates ?
Yes inquiry done from both sides, the lawyer came in January and I submitted all documents here last month. After that, still no response.
@iqra refrence number of april is going on these days i think it you’ll have to wait for 1 more month
liza sista thanx for infos
allah sab k masael hal karega.
Yes i applied on 12 april and got visa call on 13 september
@Fatima, Did you apply on 12th April because embassy raised an objection or was it your 1st time applying?
Aoa sheraz objection walun ko bhut zalel kerty hen. Mian ne july 2017 mian aply kia . Objection k bad 14 march 2018 ko ducuments sumbit kervaye .inquiry may mian ho gi abh se bi ok ho gaya 6 months bi complete ho gy. Leken abi tk koi.reponse nahi abh walun se 10 step ko mery husband ko kaha k ap ko viza ok.ker dia hia next week tk call a jye gi leken 2 week guzar chuky koi call nahi. Ab call k ky kitna wait kerna ho ga ? Kuch pta nahi 1 sal or 2 month ho gy wait wait wait .
Please tell me that late entry means that birth registration was done in UC after 7 or more than 7 years of birth, is it so? please confirm
Yes i applied on 12th april 2018 and it was first time no objection Alhamdolillah…got visa call after 5 months completion
No no, i am not asking about appointment, i am asking about visa, anyonw who applied in april, wo submited documents at embassy in april, got visa?
Han g iqra ap akaily bhi parh skti ho
Ayesha ki fatima and goraya hum sb ki inquiry may mian huwi jinu ne first time aply kia un dono.ka reply a gaya . Ayesha ka bi or fatima ka bi hum objection waly goraya and mera koi reply nahi . Shead yeh log new files pe kam kerty purani.pending mian rakh daity hen . Allah jin ko mila un k ly lucky ho or humari.muskil asan kry ameen
Wait k ilava humary pass koi rasta nahi hia. Abh waly pher kuch na kuch bata daity islambad embassy waly to kuch nahi bataty hen . ALLAH hum sb ki muskil asan kry ameen .
Mery bety ki entry 4 month late thi us ka bi objection lga hia. 40 din k ander jo idraj hota hia wo late entry mian nhi ata . Wo hoti hia normal entry us k bad late entry.
Hello seniors im going to apply my case n few days i just have one Question that i have some corrections on my urdu nikkah nam from.nikkah khwan will it ok to submit this nikkah nama to consulate ??
Hi, Mai Germany mai DAAD scholarship pai aya houn meri family nai Consulate General Khi mai 5 June, 2108 ko apply kiya. Oskai baad wife ko call ayi kai apky spouse ka residence permit expire hoga September mai tu koi confirmation letter provide karye kai extension hogi res. permit ki. Hum nai unhy DAAD ka funding extension diya coz osi ki base pai Res. Per. extend hota hai. Os kai baad unka lawyers nai interview kiya n kaha sab kuch clear hai hamari tarf sai.But abhi tak koi itla nahi n ab mujhy temporary residence permit mila hai coz apply kiya hua hai os card ko any mai time hai. Samaj nahi a raha kai kya reason hai koi reply nahi a raha. Email kiya kai kya wo DAAD letter sufficient nahi but koi reply nahi. Kya Temp. res. permit ki scanned copy bhejy ya wait karye kai Embassy ya consulate sai reply aye.
You should send them the email with your case number and the temporary residence permit scanned document from the registered email, which your spouse wrote in the application for family reunion visa. May be they won’t reply you but they will read the email.
Kitne arsay main appointment mil rai aaj kal?
6 mnths atleast
Is week kisi ko bhi visa call nahi ai?
No, didnt receive any call.
Kb aye gi viza call ? Intizar ker ker k . Allah sun ly hum sb ki
Family Visa,
yehi haal mera b hai :(
Thak gaiye intezar kar kar k…. ab 7th month start ho gaya hai….
Allah humari.madad farmye ga
10 step ko abh walun ne mery husband ko bola sb kuch ok ho gaya verification report ap ki a gi .next week tk ap ko viza call a jye gi. 3 week ho gy no viza call wait ker ker k pagal ho rehy
kitne months ho gaiye hain Aapko??? and Aapke husband ne khud se ABH ko contact kiya tha? if yes.. to kaise kiya??
Mian ne last year july mian aply kia tha. Objection laga tha us k bad again march 2018 mian jama kervaye hen . Mery husband abh walun ko call kerty rehy hen 3 bar ki hia pher unu ne 10 step ko khud call ki k ap k ducuments ok ho gy .
Family Waly jb call kerty number dekh k gusa ata yar embassy walun ki ani thi ??????????
hahahahaha, InshaAllah jaldi hm sabka masla hal ho jaiye ga…
Visa nahi aa raha…so much depress :-(
Ap ne kb aply kia? Aj to embassy mian holiday thi
Lo gee pta hi nahi mujhy…
1st may ko :-(
4 months hogay abhi tak appointment nahi aye.
kisi ko andaza hay k kab tab ajye gi appointment?
Ajkal appointment call un logo ko ai hai jinho ny april k last week main apply kiya tha, 24 april tk jin logo ny apply kiya tha unhain date mil gae hai..to dekh lain apny kb apply kiya tha…
mene 15 may ko apply kya tha