By:
Abdul Majid Malik <majid.malik[@]yahoo.com>;
Dear Members Assalam-o-Alaikum,
I am writing this email to let members know few things about family reunion and some mistakes which must be avoided. If some friend is going to get married in Pakistan, please tell him/her about these issues. Simple looking mistakes can cause big trouble and delay later in family reunion.
About Nikah Registration:
Registration of Nikah involves three people: Nikah Khawan, Nikah Registrar and Union council. UC gives a register with 50 leaves to Nikah-Registrar. Each leave contains Nikah Nama ” Form II” in quadruplicate. In one UC , only a single Registrar can have the register. In usual case, Nikah Khawan goes to Registrar(if he is himself not a registrar) and gets a Nikah nama Form II (which has fours copies). One copy each (filled and signed) is given to Duhla, Dulhan,Registrar and UC.
1. Take care that Nikah is registered at the same Union Council where Nikah has taken place .Address written on filled Nikahnama should be in the UC where Nikah is registered. Any thing different to this created big problem for many ,especially those who did Nikha in a Marriage Hall and brought Molvi sahib from some other UC. If you made this mistake, count a delay of at least 3 months. Embassy will raise objection as the lawyer sent for Marriage verification would like to see your Nikah registered at the same UC as address written on Nikahnama. You may be to asked to change registration of your marriage from one UC to other through a court procedure in Pakistan.
2. Please closely check all the four copies of the filled Nikah-Nama for any mistake in names, ID card nr., date of birth etc. Check that all signatures are there at right place and stamp of Nikah-Registrar is present. Many take things lightly in Pakistan while filling forms.
3. Telephonic Nikah is big no no. You must be present there as German Embassy/consulate now checks it from entry and exit stamps on your passport. If there are some unavoidable circumstances, give a written power of attorney which has legal value i.e signed in front of Notary Public/judge or from Pakistani embassy/consulate (in case they deal with it) to your father to represent you during Nikah. Better be present there. Your absence will complicate the matters and hence the delay/rejection as a consequence.
5. Some people I talked to have made mistake while getting online appointment. You mad a mistake in name, passport number or email address than most probably you will not be able to submit documents on that day. In my experience, if you decide to take an appointment for family reunion, you normally get it after 4 to 6 weeks. So missing an appointment can be source of further delay.6. The interview by lawyer or at embassy may involve basic questions from your spouse about you. Newly married; make sure he/she has all the basic info about you.
7. Spouse of a Blue Card holder is exempted from providing A-1 German language certificate. About this, don’t believe on what they say on phone :). If your spouse can’t manage to do a language course in Pakistan, present following reference of the concerned Law as proof on your appointment day:
http://www.bluecard-eu.de/eu-blue-card-germany/residence-act/spouse.html
http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/aufenthg_2004/__30.html
8. In some cities, there were cases when Ausländerbehorde(ABH) objected that the spouse in Germany is passing through the probation period of job. In some cities ,they ask for salary slips of 6 months while in others only for 3 months or just a job contract. Talk to other Pakistanis/Indians who have experience of dealing with the same ABH so that you can proceed accordingly.
Please correct if I am wrong on any account. The info is based on posts of members on this forum, experiences of acquaintances and my personal experience.
If you know some other issues which you or someone known to you faced, kindly share on this forum. This will facilitate others in their family reunion.
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Ok anum sis thanku so much for replying…IA main bhi mulaqat karon gi ap sy mery husband frankfurt main han.
aoa.. so congrats for the visa.. myn ny b Frankfurt e jana hy IA jb embacy visa dy dy gi to.. plz pray..
Alhamdolillah i got visa call today at 4 pm after 5 months…..thanks all of u for lots of prayers
MashaAllah Fatima. All the best for the future. Have a safe journey :) :) :)
Mash Allah fatima . Bhut bhut mubarak ho. Khuda ap ko khush rakhy or hum sb k ly duha kerye ga . Yar bhut acha ho gaya. Aj to good news hi mil gi .
Congratulations Fatima,
So happy for you :)
Please pray for us too……
Alhamdolillah i got visa call today at 4 pm. After 5 months of applying ….family viza now its ur turn for visa IA….thanku anum family viza and all of you for lots of prayers…
Thanku so much hooriya and sarah best of luck all of u
Fatima sis ap se embassy walun ne kia kia kaha hia ly aye ga just passport ya travel insurance bi . Plz share kerye ga jb viza leny jye
Yar fatima sis i think so ap is 2018 mian sb se km time pe viza mila .ap k lawyer ne teak kaha tha k british national ko jald viza mil jata hia . Mujy bhut khushi huwi ap ki.
AoA Everyone,
I am a blue card holder. have recently come across this forum and it seems we are not the only ones suffering from this stupid delay by german embassy.
> My wife submitted the initial document in end of July 2017
> In September 2017 we had our Lawyer verification.
> In December embassy make an objection regarding my wife and mine birthday certificate (later Entry Medical Exam drama)
> We got those canceled by court and submitted the documents again on April 2018
> After my wife submitted the documents for family reunion in April 2018. Since then we didn’t hear anything, No call or contact from lawyer. Our UC told us that the lawyer came to them to verify cancellation of old birth certificate. Strange that he never contacted us.
I really hate how the german embassy is treating all us Pakistanis. I especially hate how the birth certificate bullshit is used. If a person has Pakistani ID card then birth certificate should not even be needed.
We tried calling and emailing the embassy but always get the same response.
It is being processed in Chronological order.
Approximately how much time should we wait before i contact an immigration lawyer to help us with this situation ?
Oh! I have also submitted the court orders and all that crap now and also wondering the same. It has already been 8 months since the process is started. But in my email they have specifically mentioned that no verification is required for this cancellation of birthcertificates, court orders are enough. Did they tell you the same?
@Ibtesam The thing is that the once you get the old birth certificates cancelled by court then you also need to get them deleted from the NADRA database as the lawyer verifies that. Otherwise after you create the new ones, you will have 2 entries in the NADRA database with multiple birth Certificates.
Normally in order to get it cancelled you need to contact your UC (that created the old BC) and ask them to get the old one deleted. UC will probably ask you to fill an application and provide court order so that they can request NADRA to do this.
I have heard that some people faced problems due to this because their lawyer was an a######
and even verified this.
My lawyer was definitely an ***! Yes, i did the procedure and submitted the documents again in embassy but they told me no more verification is required. Expect a call after a month (which is a lie obviously)
Ibtesam:
Expect a good news soon inshaALLAH ….
They said the same to my wife when we submitted the documents after objection and we got the visa in 2 weeks. So expect good and pray to ALLAH.
@Sheraz
Try to explain your difficult situation to Embassy and tell them how much worry you are.. Same happenuted to us that the lawyer made a mess about the Birth Certificates and just due to that i had to go to Pakistan.
Did you submit the new birth certificates after attestation from Foreign Office or not ???
Hello Sheraz,
I am also a Blue Card holder, and we have submitted the documents on 28th March, and lawyer visited my family after 4 months, now a days Embassy is taking too long to process the visa, I think we can contact the Embassy after 6 months of document submission
Hi Sarah,
Yeah i am so fed up with their lack of work attitude. I really hope things will improve in future. there should be a way to complain against them. I would pretty much be willing to file a case against them in germany. i hope it never comes to that though.
But at the moment i would recommend anyone who is applying for germany to get ready mentally for this embassy torture. In my opinion it would take around 1 year in total to get Visa and that is only if you don’t get an objection. Incase of an objection add another 6-8 months to the process.
Thanku so muchhh family viza. G main ny pocha tha embassy sy jb call ai k kia lana hai to us ny kaha just passport and nothing else…tuesday ko jana hai IA visa lainy….Allah Tala ap logon k liye bhi bht asanian karry ameen sum ameen ….darood e tanjeena wala khatam main ny bhi parha hai ap log bhi parhen family visa and sarah
@fatima. ye darood tanjeena kya hay?
ap tareeka btyn k kitni bar or kis tym parha hy ap ny darood.. ?? plz..
IA myn ai frankfurt to ap se ho gi mulaqat IA.. kia krte hyn ap k husband wahan??
Aoa pRanKstEr ap ne ducument sumbit kerva diye kia ap ne dobara oppointment li ya date k bad embassy ne ly liye thy. Ap ki inquiry ho chuki hia kia
was.. g myn ny ja k documnts kra diye thy submit.. or inquary b ho chuki hy..
Meri family ny or main ny mil k parha hai 3 days lgy han…jaisy ap ki marzi hai agar ap ki family ap k sath aik hi din main khatam kr lain ya phir kuch din main kr lain… best of luck
Darood e tanjeena darood hai problems solve na ho rhi hon to parhty han
fatma ap ny kitni bari parha hy daroor tanjeena?? aik e dafa parha hy ya daily parhti t?? plz plz share.. or kis tym parhna hy darood??
Aslamu Alikam fatima bohat khushi hoi mujy Allhamdulillah allah baberkat kry apka ana germany main bohat khush hon.inshalllah ab faimly visa ki bari hy inshallah next apka hi aye ga visa app k liye meri dil sy dua hy jald hi khushkhabri naseeb hoo apko b.????????????????????????????fatima k liyee
Fatima main hannover main hon yarr ana kabi meri traf b.ager chakar lga to plŹZZZ.03436500259 MY HUNDY NUMMER IS PY MERI WHATAPP CHALL RHI HY ABIII
Thanks anum insh Allah .
Fatima kitne bar parhna ha darood e tanjena?
ye darood tanjeena. k0nsa daroid hay ? ye normal darood shareef hay. kiya?
No its different?
ye konsa hota hay tanjeena?
2000 times parhna hai
ye konsa hota hay pehli daffa suna hay
Aoa iqra google pe search ker lo. Darood tanjeena lekhna . Nikal aye ga .
thanx fatima sista. 4 months gone but did not get appointment.
what the heck is tha?
INSHA ALLAH jaldi mil jaey gi dua karen meri bhi bht duaen han ap sb logon k liye.Allah Tala sb ko visa dain ameen.
Salam family viza ap kaisi han???
Hello,
can anybody tell me if we can book an appointment in Karachi but living in Punjab? does it work?
Secondly how much time Islamabad is taking
from giving an appointment and then
processing time?
Salam to all,
Got an appointment email today, applied on 13 april and the appointment is for 7 november, it almost took 7 months
W slam A.ahmed itni late . Chaly shukar hia mili to sahi . Best of luck.
Can anybody tell after how much time the result of A1 is given? After weeks or on the same day?
in 3 working days
im ready to apply for family reunion visa i have done A1 can you guys please tell all other remaining doucuments which i have to submit in cosulate
Aoa fatima subha ap jye gy viza leny plz apna experince share kerye ga . Hum sb k ly duha . Humy bi jald viza mil jye . Best of luck
Congratulations hamare liye b dua ker dae
Salam all,
Finally a good news we received after more than 1 year of processing time.
Here i would like to share the steps and issues we got during the visa application process.
My wife applied on: 23rd of August 2017
Husbands Birth Certificate was missing so had to submit later.
Husbands certificate submitted
Lawyer visited on 3rd Jan, 2018
ABH got the documents and sent confirmation on 30th Jan, 2018.
13th or 14th of June, 2018 got objection regarding birth certificates of mine and my wife’s too.
Cleared Objection on 3rd of September, 2018.
Received Visa call on 12th of September, 2018
Received Visa today on 18th of Sept 2018 finally.
Alhamdulillah.
It was a really long time but Alhamdulillah at the end we got it.
You got objection regarding birth certificates, even after Aulaenderbehoerder sent the confirmation of visa ?
@Ali: yes ABH nay confirmation foran hi bhej di thi laikin objection bad main ai ….
Congratulation ??????????
Congratulations , I’m still waiting for my clearance and it’s quite long now
@Fadi: What was the objection btw ?
Kia ap.ki inquiry nahi huwi hia 2bara . Ap ne fees jama nahi kervai thi objection k bad itni jaldi viza strange
Humara birth certificate pay objection thi to phr hum nay blkul woh hi follow kia jo embassy nay bola tha email main laikin jab submit krwaya to us say pehlay hum nay Birth certificate bhi attest krwaya foreign office say aur even copies bhi attested submit krwain …. jab meri wife nay submit krwaye to pocha kay fee ka bhi likha tha email main but unhon nay kaha kay nahin apki verification ho gai hai fee purani wali hi chalay gi …. humain bhi hairat hui phr hum nay dobara pocha laikin unhon nay bola kay nahin verification ho gai hai aur fee dobara jamah krwanay ki zarurat ni hai apko ….. itni jaldi hum bhi expect ni kr rhay thay visa laikin bs ALLAH nay apna karam kia bhaut aur agya visa …. han ho skta hai shaid is say farak para ho kay main bhi wife kay sath gya tha embassy tk documents submit krwanay but to be honest ALLAH nay hi sabab bnaya hai aur sb ki bhaut duain thin …. ap sb bhi dua krain wo namumkin ko bhi mumkin bna deti hai …
A.o a apko visa Cal aye uske bad apse koi interview lia gia german language me? If any one know k visa cal k bad wo interview leta german language or English nd insurance kb krwane k lye kehte?
@Aqib: meray pas blue card hai to meri wife ko zarurat ni pari German Language ki …
Baki embassy nay sirf bola Passport lay ao aur Meldebescheinigung (city registration) kyun kay pechli wali already expire ho chuki thi to unhon nay new mangwaya aur bs aj Alhamdulillah visa day dia meri wife ko
Yes we got the objection after confirmation from ABH.