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Family Reunion – Pakistan – General info for all to avoid mistakes

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August 30, 2013 3 Min Read
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Abdul Majid Malik <majid.malik[@]yahoo.com>;
Dear Members Assalam-o-Alaikum,
I am writing this email to let members know few things about family reunion and some mistakes which must be avoided. If some friend is going to get married  in Pakistan, please tell him/her about these issues. Simple looking mistakes can cause big trouble and delay later in family reunion.
About Nikah Registration:
Registration of Nikah involves three people:  Nikah Khawan, Nikah Registrar  and Union council. UC gives a register with 50 leaves to Nikah-Registrar. Each leave contains Nikah Nama ” Form II” in quadruplicate. In one UC , only a single Registrar can have the register.  In usual case, Nikah Khawan goes to Registrar(if he is himself not a registrar) and gets a Nikah nama Form II (which has fours copies). One copy each (filled and signed) is given to  Duhla, Dulhan,Registrar and UC.
1. Take care that Nikah is registered at the same Union Council where Nikah has taken place .Address written on filled Nikahnama should be in the UC where Nikah is registered.  Any thing different to this created big problem for many ,especially those who did Nikha in a Marriage Hall and brought Molvi sahib from some other UC. If you made this mistake, count a delay of at least 3 months. Embassy will raise objection as the lawyer sent for Marriage verification would like to see your Nikah registered at the same UC as address written on Nikahnama. You may be to asked to change registration of your marriage from one UC to other through a court procedure in Pakistan.
2. Please closely check all the four copies of the filled Nikah-Nama for any mistake in names, ID card nr., date of birth etc. Check that all signatures are there at right place and stamp of Nikah-Registrar is present. Many take things lightly in Pakistan while filling forms.
3. Telephonic Nikah is big no no. You must be present there as German Embassy/consulate now checks it from entry and exit stamps on your passport. If there are some unavoidable circumstances, give a written power of attorney which has legal value i.e signed in front of Notary Public/judge or from Pakistani embassy/consulate (in case they deal with it) to your father to represent you during Nikah.  Better be present there. Your absence will complicate the matters and hence the delay/rejection as a consequence.
4.  Carefully read the requirements of Embassy for Family reunion. If any question arises, call embassy to get an answer. Don’t rely blindly on the info collected from here and there.
5. Some people I talked to have made mistake while getting online appointment. You mad a mistake in name, passport number or email address than most probably you will not be able to submit documents on that day. In my experience, if you decide to take an appointment for family reunion, you normally get it after 4 to 6 weeks. So missing an appointment can be source of further delay.6. The interview by lawyer or at embassy may involve basic questions from your spouse about you. Newly married; make sure he/she has all the basic info about you.

7. Spouse of a Blue Card holder is exempted from providing A-1 German language certificate. About this, don’t believe on what they say on phone :). If your spouse can’t manage to do a language course in Pakistan, present following reference of the concerned Law  as proof on your appointment day:

http://www.bluecard-eu.de/eu-blue-card-germany/residence-act/spouse.html 

http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/aufenthg_2004/__30.html

8. In some cities, there were cases when Ausländerbehorde(ABH) objected that the spouse in Germany is passing through the probation period of job.  In some cities ,they ask for salary slips of 6 months while in others only for 3 months or just a job contract. Talk to other Pakistanis/Indians who have experience of dealing with the same ABH  so that you can proceed accordingly.

Please correct if I am wrong on any account. The info is based on posts of members on this forum, experiences of acquaintances and my personal experience.

If you know some other issues which you or someone known to you faced, kindly share on this forum. This will facilitate others in their family reunion.

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  2. Aoa ibtesam ap ko koi reply aya hia embassy ki trf se ? Ap ko court oder jama kervaye huwy kitny week guzar gy hen ?

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        1. after submiting papers after correcting objectins how much tym embacy ll take to issue visa? my layer who came for inquary said tht he submitted papers by the end of september.. now how much tym for visa?

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  3. Hi all, does anyone know how long is the duration of first family reunion visa which is issued from Islamabad embassy , is it one month or 3 months?

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  4. Got visa call today.Allahmdulillah Allahmdulillah Allahndulillah Allahmdulillah.
    Everyone recite
    La illah illah anta subhana ka ini kuntu minazalimeeen .

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    3. it was first tym yu applied or after objection? please guide us with full details.. n fo how many tyms recite Ayat qareema n which tym??

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      1. I applied first time, no objection Allahmdulillah.
        Apllied for appointment in feb..got appointment of 1st may, lawyer visted on 18 may. Got visa call on 4 oct.
        Ayat e karemma kitni parhni hai iska koi talauq nahi…jitni ho skain parahin..be shumar parhain. Cuz this dua is specially for sorrow and grief. An we know we all are worried for visa. Recite as much as you can..recite every second. InshAllah inshAllab every one of you will be blessed. Trust on Allah.
        May Allah bless you all what you all are hoping and waiting for. Ameen.

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        1. My wife also received a call today from the Islamabad consulate, they told her to collect the visa. My question is, how much time does the consulate talke to stamp the visa after they have contacted you? and do you need other documents such as Polo-vaccination certificate and travel insurance prior to having your visa stamped on the passport.
          Thanks :)

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      1. 2nd inquiry august myn hui or septmbr myn lawyer ny documnts submit kraye.. so any idea tht how much tym it ll take to issue visa??

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        1. Mujy abh se 2nd inquiry k 4 month bad reply aya k ap k ducuments ok ho gy hen
          .mery khial mian inquiry k 4 month bad reply ata hia. Best of luck.

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  9. Hello,

    Can anyone guide me, how to contact ABH to check the status of VISA? If someone has experience with berlin ABH?

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    1. Simple and easy. Go and visit them in their working hours (Ausländer Behörde). They will just ask for the date of birth of the person who has applied for the visa and if the person from ABH isn’t giving a satisfying answer then ask for his supervisor i.e. Boss (Sachgebietleiter).

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    1. kisi ki appointment aye hay is month mein agar aye hay tu pls btadain kab apply kiya tha kitnay months k baad aye?

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    2. Hello Family Viza,

      maine Email ki thi, but wohi auto-generated reply aaya hai, mjhe 6 months and 10 days ho gaiye hain, no objection ;(

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  11. Hay pata nahi kia masla hia yar. Ap abh se pata kro na .wo ap ko bataye gy. Ap abh se opplintment ly k jaho or pta kro

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    1. wohi pooch ri thi k appointment leke jaani paray gi kia? or just call karke b pooch sakte hain? or should I walk in??

      I have no idea

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  12. Mery husband ki inquiry k waqt jo lettee mila tha us pe un k number tha wo call hi kerty thy . Ap jis city mian hen net se una ka number search ker k call ker ly ya khud ja k pta kry k humari report ayi hia ya nahi ap ki inquiry kb huwi hia .inqiury k 4 month bad abh waly bataty hen

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  13. Aoa, mere nikah name pr “shadi k gwahan” ki jaga “dulha k vakeel k taqarar k gawahan” ki jagah pr gwahan mojood hein, kya is se koi masla ho sakta hei, please reply if anyone faced the same situation

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          2. Family Viza, abi tak koi b reply ni aaya :( ab to 7 months ho gaiye hain…. I tried to contact Embassy but they are replying me with auto-generated emails so I called ABH, and they said they didn’t get reply regarding the verification of documents from the embassy.. so…………….. :( I am still waiting

    4. My wife also received a call today from the Islamabad consulate, they told her to collect the visa. My question is, how much time does the consulate talke to stamp the visa after they have contacted you? and do you need other documents such as Polo-Vaccination certificate and travel insurance prior to having your visa stamped on the passport.

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      1. A o.a apki wife ko kia kia documents sath lane k lye kaha tha nd German exam lia that plzzz if you know plzzz inform us

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  16. Thanks sarah and iqra . Bhut si duha ap k ly. Mian ne last year july 2017 mian aply kia tha. 14 March mian dobara ducuments sumbit kervaye . 7 month bad mila hia

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  18. Thanks fadi inshallah next bari ap ki hia ap ne bhut time guzar leha hia ap sb se purany hen foram pe .inshallah

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      1. Thanks pRanKstEr best of luck insh Allah ap ko bi jald viza mily ga . Mujy lgta tha yeh obj walun ko viza nhi daity bhut late kerty leken 2 d inquiry k 5 month dy hi deha . Allah ka shukar hia

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        1. inshAllah Ameen.. may Allah bless yu.. n did they ask yu to bring A1 cirtifcate?? or kia kia sath lany ko kaha hy?? kb jana hy visa lyny??

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          1. Mian ne tuesday ko jana hia kuch bi nahi kaha just passport . A1 mian ne pehly jama kervaya huwya hia

        2. oke.. bestest of luck.. may Allah bless yu.. n hmare liye b dua kryn.. or kis city jana hy ap ny germany myn??

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        3. i got visa call yrsterday Alhamdullilah.. Allah ka shukar.. ABH myn submit krany k 3 din bad ee call aa gyi Alhamdullilah.. bt embacy ny kaha hy k aa k hm ko A1 ka papr dy dyn n visa ly jyn.. plz guide me agr ap ny embacy ka test dya hy to bta dyn k kia kia pochte hyn wo.. or kis type ka papr hota hy?? i ll b waitin fo yur response..

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          1. Pranskter,

            congratulations :)
            please tell us your whole journey, from appointment date to visa call..

          3. it took one year to the whole process.. novmbr 2017 myn file krai t submit.. bt due to birth cirtifcate rejection n make new one it took 6 months.. in august i submit again the whole file with 30000 fee in embacy.. lawyer came again fo 2nd enquary in septmbr.. he submitted report on 28, 30 septmbr.. my husbnd submitted documnts to abh on 31 0ctubr, n on 5 novembr i recive visa call.. Alhamdullilah.. plz ab koi paper l bare myn b bta doo.. plz plzz plzz.. ???????????????

          4. Mainy embassy ka test dia hai… email ae thi write a greetings to your husband.
            Or 6 to 7 questions thy schreiben main
            Next five questions thy schreiben main.
            1- wie heisst deine lieblings sendung im fernsehn?
            2- was isst du am liebstan?
            3- welche farbe banana hat?
            4- wo wohnst du?
            5- wie heissen ihr eltern?
            6- wie viele menschen sitzen auf der bank? ( foto thi ek)
            7- welcher monat ist jetzt?
            Or oral main koi 15 questions thy
            1- wie heisst Ihr man?
            2 wann haben sie geboren?
            3- wie alt bist du?
            4- wie alt Ihr maan?
            5- wo wohnt Ihr mann in deutschland?
            6-Wie viele ihr mann verdienen pro monat?
            7- wo haben sie deutsch gelernt?
            8- wie lange Sie schule gegangen?
            9- Ihr mann von beruf?
            10- arbeiten sie auch?
            11-Buchstaberien Ihre familie name?
            12- Wie lautet Ihre telefon nummer?
            13- Wie viele geschwister haben Sie?
            Mostly ko yehi aa rha ap kro yeh hi… ap kis city ja rhi i have the same case like you.. but embassy na mujhy phly test k ly bula lya or mery husband na 29 0ct ko Abh documents dy thy par mujhy abi tak koi call ni ae am very worried :(

        1. Really Sarah? Did you receive a call soon after the interview or did you also waited for the Lawyers call for 4 months. Its unbelievable that the embassy took 5 months to give an appointment and now the lawyer will take this long :( :(

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          1. Hooriya,

            Yes, I waited for the lawyer for 4 months, had interview on 28th March 2018 and lawyer visited on 13th August 2018.

  20. mai ne suna hai ke abh ke through isb embassy mai appointment jaldi mil jati hai? kisi ne mujhe kaha unhe 3 months mai mil gai. Kisi ko pata hai kese ho ga ye

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    1. ye numbr embacy ka ee hy.. plz email them.. or perhaps they email yu check email.. yu applied for apointmnt or waiting fo visa??

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      1. kya kisi ko pata hay k jin logo nay may k 3rd week mei appointment k liye apply kya tha unko kab tak appointment ki email ajaegi.?

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          3. Tu apse kya interview mei poocha tha?
            Aur kya apne husband k paas German nationality hayou?

    1. Aoa, I have the same above question about email address which has to be used in order to send doc. Do we have to use same address which was used by embassy to send email. I sent on the same address but received automated reply that queires about visa status wont be entertained. Rather than acknowledgement of receiving doc.

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  26. Hello

    On the official page of Embassy, there is a section about document verification. Thw following is written there:

    Document verification:

    If you apply for a family reunion visa, your Pakistani certificates and other documents will need to be verified.

    – Fee: 40.000PKR

    – Processing time: at least 4 month

    I do not understand this. Do i have to get these documents verified or the embassy does it itself? The processing time is also too long. Did they introduced it recently? Any information will be welcomed.

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    1. Yes the fee got updated from 30000 pkr to 40000 pkr. They do the verification themself, you just have to submit the documents and the fee. The processing time is 4 months since last few years and this didn’t change.

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    2. You just have to submit your documents… Embassy will verify them by tge help of a lawyer.. those 40000 are lawyer’s fee… After your documents submission lawyers visits your home and union council for verification of documents.. this process takes 4 months these days

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  27. Aoa, I have the question about email address which has to be used in order to send doc. Do we have to use same address which was used by embassy to send email. I sent on the same address but received automated reply that queires about visa status wont be entertained. Rather than acknowledgement of receiving doc.

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  28. My wife also received a call today from the Islamabad consulate, they told her to collect the visa. My question is, how much time does the consulate talke to stamp the visa after they have contacted you and do you need other documents such as Polo-Vaccination certificate and travel insurance prior to having your visa stamped on the passport.
    In simple words, if she goes to Islamabad consulate on wednessday,can she still get the visa on friday the same week?

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    1. Registered online for an appointment in the Nov of 2017 and got the appointment for feb of 2018. The lawyer for the investigation purpose came on march of 2018 and since she resides in the capital of city and i am a German national, so as expected the lawyer verified and gave a positive feedback. Things went wrong when i changed my residence to a near by city. I thought the visa time given the refugee crisis would take 6 months and i probably wont receive any letter from the immigration authorities as i am German national. After the passage of 6 months and not being able to receive any kind of information, i asked the relevant authorities in my city for the status of my wife visa. I was shocked after being informed that no visa application was filed under my name or her name. I though the lawyer didn’t submitted the papers or the consulate in Pakistan was being lazy, yet i still thought the residence that i had, when my wife applied for the visa. I was surprised after asking for the information at the ex residency that the visa papers together with the papers sent by the consulate of Islamabad have arrived by the immigration officer who had process the matter was on vacation. After the officer came to know about my new residency, he informed me about the process. i.e. the visa consent procedure would be sent back to Köln which is the headquater of BVA ( the body of government that deals with visas) and they will sent that to my new residency. So did they, but the problem came as i was yet to change my residence because of my Work-purpose. Upon informing the authorities , they advised me to inform the immigration authorities at the new residence so they can send my papers to them.
      Unfortunately, the immigration authorities at my new residency were quite lazy or may be overburdened due to refugees crisis or may people with right wing approach. It took me 5 weeks after continuing asking for the status and then finally complaining there supervisor that they sent me the letter asking for my apartment contract and all. On friday last week they told me that they have given their consent and following tuesday she received the call from Islamabad consulate.

      Moral of the story, dont change your residence if some has applied the visa on your behalf and keep in contact with immigration {ABH} officers :D

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