By:
Abdul Majid Malik <majid.malik[@]yahoo.com>;
Dear Members Assalam-o-Alaikum,
I am writing this email to let members know few things about family reunion and some mistakes which must be avoided. If some friend is going to get married in Pakistan, please tell him/her about these issues. Simple looking mistakes can cause big trouble and delay later in family reunion.
About Nikah Registration:
Registration of Nikah involves three people: Nikah Khawan, Nikah Registrar and Union council. UC gives a register with 50 leaves to Nikah-Registrar. Each leave contains Nikah Nama ” Form II” in quadruplicate. In one UC , only a single Registrar can have the register. In usual case, Nikah Khawan goes to Registrar(if he is himself not a registrar) and gets a Nikah nama Form II (which has fours copies). One copy each (filled and signed) is given to Duhla, Dulhan,Registrar and UC.
1. Take care that Nikah is registered at the same Union Council where Nikah has taken place .Address written on filled Nikahnama should be in the UC where Nikah is registered. Any thing different to this created big problem for many ,especially those who did Nikha in a Marriage Hall and brought Molvi sahib from some other UC. If you made this mistake, count a delay of at least 3 months. Embassy will raise objection as the lawyer sent for Marriage verification would like to see your Nikah registered at the same UC as address written on Nikahnama. You may be to asked to change registration of your marriage from one UC to other through a court procedure in Pakistan.
2. Please closely check all the four copies of the filled Nikah-Nama for any mistake in names, ID card nr., date of birth etc. Check that all signatures are there at right place and stamp of Nikah-Registrar is present. Many take things lightly in Pakistan while filling forms.
3. Telephonic Nikah is big no no. You must be present there as German Embassy/consulate now checks it from entry and exit stamps on your passport. If there are some unavoidable circumstances, give a written power of attorney which has legal value i.e signed in front of Notary Public/judge or from Pakistani embassy/consulate (in case they deal with it) to your father to represent you during Nikah. Better be present there. Your absence will complicate the matters and hence the delay/rejection as a consequence.
5. Some people I talked to have made mistake while getting online appointment. You mad a mistake in name, passport number or email address than most probably you will not be able to submit documents on that day. In my experience, if you decide to take an appointment for family reunion, you normally get it after 4 to 6 weeks. So missing an appointment can be source of further delay.6. The interview by lawyer or at embassy may involve basic questions from your spouse about you. Newly married; make sure he/she has all the basic info about you.
7. Spouse of a Blue Card holder is exempted from providing A-1 German language certificate. About this, don’t believe on what they say on phone :). If your spouse can’t manage to do a language course in Pakistan, present following reference of the concerned Law as proof on your appointment day:
http://www.bluecard-eu.de/eu-blue-card-germany/residence-act/spouse.html
http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/aufenthg_2004/__30.html
8. In some cities, there were cases when Ausländerbehorde(ABH) objected that the spouse in Germany is passing through the probation period of job. In some cities ,they ask for salary slips of 6 months while in others only for 3 months or just a job contract. Talk to other Pakistanis/Indians who have experience of dealing with the same ABH so that you can proceed accordingly.
Please correct if I am wrong on any account. The info is based on posts of members on this forum, experiences of acquaintances and my personal experience.
If you know some other issues which you or someone known to you faced, kindly share on this forum. This will facilitate others in their family reunion.
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No i am no German but my wife have German Nationality.
Your wife is german national and your son is from this same wife German or form your other wife pakistani
Other Pakistan Wife
Then you have to struggle you have to fullfil the requirements like job contract etc
Thanks u so much Fadi but This Moment Ausländerbehörde give me One Integrationkurs. Also no possible cancel These Deutsch coures. Possible Any Lawyer help us.
Lawyer can help you but you have to full fill the requirements in some how while you need to complete course then you can but i think your deutsch is automatically good enough when you are for longer period there in your case i don’t exactly how long you have been there
Thanks u so much Fadi but This Moment Ausländerbehörde give me One Integrationkurs. Also no possible cancel These Deutsch coures. Possible Any Lawyer help us.
Assalamu Aleikum,
i married in Pakistan.
Did someone registered his/her marriage in Standesamt in germany before applying for the family reunion Visa?
I applied the registration 7 months ago. The inquiry people came 2 months ago, we are still waiting for the registration.
there is no need to register marriage in standesamt if you are married in pakistan.. once your spouse gets visa then you can register in standesamt easily
Koi aisa mera bhai ya,behn jis ka objection nai laga,phr bhi time 6 mahiney se zeyada laga ho.
G bhai .mere 9 months 20 days bd visa lga there was no objection in case. Embaasy was delaying dont know why.
family reunion ap ko visa call morning time ai k evening main.a
about 11 am 0512007 se
My wife applied 6 months back and then lawyer visited on 3rd Jan, 2018 but after that no feedback from Embassy. We asked multiple times too but always the same reply that please wait, its still in process.
are you deutsch national?
No I am having blue card.
you can visit abh then
I did visit. they said ask Embassy, we have sent everything required.
When I asked embassy they said please wait its in process :/
Aslam o alikum to all
I have court order now and i went to the uc on lahore to cancel my birthcertificate he said you have to make an application and then go to main head office where they will send report to Islamabad after that they will assign one of the agent of Nadra who will visit here in uc for cancellation then you have to make your new birthcertificate to that uc where you are living now .. because it is not your residential area we will just cancel it. Any body has experienced about it
yes my friend had same experience .. you need to visit nadra regional headoffice near expo center johar town go to crms department and fill out a cancellation form. they will send someone to uc to cancel it .. use some money the process will be quicker
Okay thanks a lot and how many day normaly they take to cancel the birth certificate
3-4 weeks but if you give him some money they can send someone to your uc with in a week to delete birth entry
Thank you so much
thanx family reunion. u have idea my husband is british national and is doing 2 jobs there in germany and my daughters have british nationality they are with me in pakistan i applied on 12 of april lawyer came on 8 th may he told everything is ok but still no response because german lawyer told my husband that in my case it will take 3 -4 weeks. ABH gives any information if my husband go there.
when i have applied my wife was pregnant but still they took long as usual like about 6 months . german embassy in pakistan is quite busy these days so i guess they will take 6 months atleast in your case too
Can you please share the Visa stamped experience at islamabad ..like when and how they stamped ( time ..waiting period) etc
they didnt asked me to bring insurance or anything other than passport so i went in at 8 and got my passport back at 11:15
Is it necessary to visit Nadra for cancellation or union council do it from their end??? I will get court order on 9th june but confused what to do next first….
you need to visit nadra regional headoffice and go to crms department with your birth certificate and court order and fill out a cancellation form. they will send someone to uc to cancel it ..
Thank you so much
I called Nadra regional headoffice they said you just need to submitt court order in union council our cocern person will delete it when union council will say to delete… no need to submitt separate application.
Today i was in nadra office they give me paper to fill it up and said bring it after stamp from secreatry and there was one application i have provided that was attested from secreatry he said you have to attest it from chairman as well such a bed experience i was not expecting .. i though may be i have to fill the form there and submit there he said no you have ti stamp ir from secreatry and one thing more in form there was one thing realated to application so i will be the applicant and registered person as well please suggest thanks and what should i entre in the line applicant relation with registered person im talking about the nadra cancellation form please help
If you are the applicant and registered person as well then in relation you have to write self i think so….is it possible for you to send me that cancellation form…plz i need it am belong from sargodha… nadra regional office said we dont have such option to delete birthcertificate.
Yes i can send you no issue but how and family reunion can you please guide what i should mention in fiiling the form can i be the applicant as well
@admin i need a cancellation form but how fadi send me please help me…
German national hone ka kitna benefits hote hain.spouse visa main
Ya phir blue card holder or german national 1 hi time period se guzerna prta he?
german national ko job salary etc ni show krna prta n blue card k ly a1 zruri nahi. baki time period is almost same
AOA . Aaj muje vissa k liye call aayi hai. 6 month bad . Mera visa family reunion k base par thaa…Aur agar Kisi friend ko pata hai Germany ja kar kese Ausweis apply karna hai ?. Aur Kon kon sy paper chahiye.? Aur Kis kis amt mein jana hai ?
Apne visa kb apply kia tha ?
Wo sb Information jb ap jao gey tb apko mil jae ge
sab se pehley aap ki meldung ho ghi mean residence registration ho ghi phir shadi register ho ghi aur auslanderbehorde main card apply ho ga
Hallo,
ich habe in Pakistan geheiratet, endlich hat mein Mann (nach 6 Monaten ) die Erlaubnis bekommen, nach Deutschland zu reisen. Welche Schritte müssen hier als erstes eingeleitet werden? Also welche Behördengänge sind zum Anfang wichtig? Wir freuen uns über infos/Erfahrungen. Danke
I think the first thing your husband should do after reaching Germany is to get registered in City Office (Bürgerburo) then according to the visa duration. In the mean time apply for Health Insurance (Krankenversicherung). These two things are the most important to extend the visa from Foreigners Office (Aüsländerbehörde).
Ahmed: Mein ny 29 .11.2017 ko apply kia tha.
That means apko 6 months and 7 days lge, my wife applied on 13 December 2017. We are also waiting for the response. We are expecting k with in next 2 weeks a jae. And auswise apply krn k lye apko appointment leni pare ge. Jis city ma ap ja rae ho, us city k auslaenderbehoerde ko email kr k pele appointment leni ho ge aur phr wo apko email pe btae gey what they need from you aur se pele apko city registration krni ho ge aur city registration k lye apk pas ghr ka contract aur wohnunggeberbeschtätigung(flat/house/room giving certificate) hona chahye jo k apko apne landlord se mile ge.
My wife applied in August 2017, then we had some issues with Birth Certificate but then in the start of december the documents got completed. Lawyer visited on 3rd of Jan 2018. And now we are just waiting everytime when we ask they tell that its in process.
Your(husband) inquiry is done from abh office germany?
I asked from ABH and they told me that we have already sent the documents or the info needed by embassy….
My wife and my daughter is german national
Mera case in processes he 1 mahina ho geya he submit krwaya he case.
Koi trika he kam urgent krwane ka
u have to wait for atleast six months than u can ask embassy about ur status.it will do nothing when u try to make it in hurry.
how old is your daughter?
1 year abhi kuch din.kam hain or mery wife and daughter sath reh rahi hain Pakistan
did anyone receive call from this number
051 7080307?
haider bhai my husband went to ABH today they told him that my file is with them embassy has not send any decision yet . and they said if i visit embassy then may be they give some information and if they need any document then embassy will ask me. it depends upon luck .
its same like our case
they also asked my husband if i go to embassy may be they give some information i think going to embassy is useless after waiting for too long they will say still under process. haider bhai your wife has applied for visa or she is waiting for appointment.
visa interview was held on 3rd january 2018
aoa enquiry kia ap ki dobara inquiry huwi hia ? ap ne august mian aply kia to 3 jan ko lawyer aya plz share ur viza process
Walaikum Asalam
Nahin Dobara enquiry nahin hui. Hum say dobara birth certificate mngwaya tha in december and then they said kay apka process ab start ho ga. After that 3 jan ko lawyer aya tha. So in my wife’s case the visa process started in December 2017.
Now its been more than 6 months we are still waiting.
Whats your timeline?
Mjhy visa chahye mjhy nhi pta Eid py visa chahye ??
Wish you a good luck ☺
Ayesha dear, maangny main koi harj Nahi shayed mil hi Jaye.
ha ha ha ayesha mil jye ga german embassy ki trf se eidi
I wish k sab ko family vissa miljae. Embassy ki taraf seh eidi yahi miljae because yhan per eid without our husband it’s really tough.
Phly 3 months course kro phr pas kro phr 3 months appointment lny ma lg jatay …phr 2 months bad lawyer attaa …phr AP bhool jap beybas ho 6 months sy phly ksi ko pkr nhi ksty koi jwb deh e nhi apka…acha sabaar ka imtehaan lty ha yh log yaar
Bilkul Sahi Kaha Ayesha, mujy aur family viza ko next month aik aik Saal ho Jaye ga intezaar kerty. I also wish that this Eid my daughter would be with me but can’t do anything except waiting.
Bohat Bura hy itna lamba intezaar.
Lekin mujy Lagta hy ab next Eid tak bhi dy dain tu Bari baat hy.
Btw why is it taking too long?
Agreed with you Ayesha.
Husband’s PTA nhi ktnay months or Turkish Donner khayegy :D
Exactly in embassy walo ka to mera dil kerta hai gala hi dba do
Hahaha Fadi, gala Nahi dabana Nahi Tu hamain visa kon dy GA.
ayesha sister be paitence.aap k husband k ilawah aur bhi bahot log donner khatey hain aur isii intezar main hain k gher ka khana khain?
Kya AP BTA skty ho k Meri b inquiry hogai ha husband ki h Jo requied thy documents ABH ma Dy dye howay..birth certificate ki Jo demand thi to pori krdi now ktna time mazeed lgyga …and mjhy visa issue krnay sy phly mere husband ko inform kiya jyga ?
jab ABH se clear ho ga to aap k husband ko inform kiya jaye ga.us ke baad aap ko embassy se call aye ghi
Sahi Kaha, Haider Bhai, inshallah juldi khushkhabri Miley gi Sab ko.
inshallah aisey hi ho ga
Main nay bhi bhaut döner khaya hai laikin us kay bad ghar main khana bnana seekh lia tha … laikin ab khana bnanay ka bhi dil ni chahta ALLAH kray meri wife bhi jald ajaye aur ghar smbhaal lay ameen ….. :D :D
I’ve applied for the renunciation certificate at the consulate general of Pakistan in frankfurt. But I read on the website of the consulate general that Once certificate arrival at the consulate is confirmed an applicant must bring the original CNIC/NICOP/CRC, along with its cancellation fee recipt ( paid and generated online) now I’m confused what kind of process do I need to make at the website of NADRA , kindly pls guide me through it ? what should I do ?
I was in regional office nadra lahore they said we will do after eid what the hell anybody has links how can i expedite the proccess so before eid i can submit in embassy
aoa goaraya ap ne abh se ya emabssy se pata kervaya hia? allah kry bus ab jald khushkhabri dy dy
Ji walekumsalaam Family viza,
Two days ago, my German lawyer sent them a Fax and inquire about the visa status of my daughter. Today, I called in the Embassy and asked about it. They said it would s still in process and we can’t tell you how long it will take more.
They said wait for the reply of that fax. Because Embassy will surely reply to the German lawyer. So will have to wait. Let’s see what will comes next. Inshallah Allah behtar kary ga.
I am waiting for Lawyer to come since 2 months, the interview was on 28th of March, still, no contact from Embassy or Lawyer, How much time lawyer takes to visit the family??
w slam sarah lawyer city mian case k hisab se aty hian kisi ka 2 months bad kisi ka 2 and half ya 3 monrh bad bi dont worry a jye ga