By:
Abdul Majid Malik <majid.malik[@]yahoo.com>;
Dear Members Assalam-o-Alaikum,
I am writing this email to let members know few things about family reunion and some mistakes which must be avoided. If some friend is going to get married in Pakistan, please tell him/her about these issues. Simple looking mistakes can cause big trouble and delay later in family reunion.
About Nikah Registration:
Registration of Nikah involves three people: Nikah Khawan, Nikah Registrar and Union council. UC gives a register with 50 leaves to Nikah-Registrar. Each leave contains Nikah Nama ” Form II” in quadruplicate. In one UC , only a single Registrar can have the register. In usual case, Nikah Khawan goes to Registrar(if he is himself not a registrar) and gets a Nikah nama Form II (which has fours copies). One copy each (filled and signed) is given to Duhla, Dulhan,Registrar and UC.
1. Take care that Nikah is registered at the same Union Council where Nikah has taken place .Address written on filled Nikahnama should be in the UC where Nikah is registered. Any thing different to this created big problem for many ,especially those who did Nikha in a Marriage Hall and brought Molvi sahib from some other UC. If you made this mistake, count a delay of at least 3 months. Embassy will raise objection as the lawyer sent for Marriage verification would like to see your Nikah registered at the same UC as address written on Nikahnama. You may be to asked to change registration of your marriage from one UC to other through a court procedure in Pakistan.
2. Please closely check all the four copies of the filled Nikah-Nama for any mistake in names, ID card nr., date of birth etc. Check that all signatures are there at right place and stamp of Nikah-Registrar is present. Many take things lightly in Pakistan while filling forms.
3. Telephonic Nikah is big no no. You must be present there as German Embassy/consulate now checks it from entry and exit stamps on your passport. If there are some unavoidable circumstances, give a written power of attorney which has legal value i.e signed in front of Notary Public/judge or from Pakistani embassy/consulate (in case they deal with it) to your father to represent you during Nikah. Better be present there. Your absence will complicate the matters and hence the delay/rejection as a consequence.
5. Some people I talked to have made mistake while getting online appointment. You mad a mistake in name, passport number or email address than most probably you will not be able to submit documents on that day. In my experience, if you decide to take an appointment for family reunion, you normally get it after 4 to 6 weeks. So missing an appointment can be source of further delay.6. The interview by lawyer or at embassy may involve basic questions from your spouse about you. Newly married; make sure he/she has all the basic info about you.
7. Spouse of a Blue Card holder is exempted from providing A-1 German language certificate. About this, don’t believe on what they say on phone :). If your spouse can’t manage to do a language course in Pakistan, present following reference of the concerned Law as proof on your appointment day:
http://www.bluecard-eu.de/eu-blue-card-germany/residence-act/spouse.html
http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/aufenthg_2004/__30.html
8. In some cities, there were cases when Ausländerbehorde(ABH) objected that the spouse in Germany is passing through the probation period of job. In some cities ,they ask for salary slips of 6 months while in others only for 3 months or just a job contract. Talk to other Pakistanis/Indians who have experience of dealing with the same ABH so that you can proceed accordingly.
Please correct if I am wrong on any account. The info is based on posts of members on this forum, experiences of acquaintances and my personal experience.
If you know some other issues which you or someone known to you faced, kindly share on this forum. This will facilitate others in their family reunion.
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I have applied in Islamabad Embassy, and my city is Islamabad, I don’t know why they are taking so long, as my husband is Blue card holder.
they dont care ur husband has eu blue card or normal visa
Have you already received the visa appointment?
Yes, interview was on 28th of March
sarah me also rawalpindi mera lawyer 2 month bad aya tha . lawyer lahore se aya tha moslty dosry city se aty hian is ly time zaida lety hian a jye ga
aoa enquiry mian ne july kian aply kia tha ? august mian pakistan se inquiry huwi november mian abh walun ne ducument sumbit kiye december mian objection lag gya burthcertificates ka mera or mery ik sal k beta us ka . abi march mian jama kervaye hian dobara may mian dobara inquiry huwi ab dekhy kitna time lagaty hian? allah hi rehm kry kia ap ki abh se sb complete ho gaya hia ?
Yes mera ABH say sb January 30th ko complete ho gaya tha laikin abhi tak koi response nahin aya uskay bad say ….. We are just waiting and jab embassy say pocho to wo yeh hi kehtay hain kay wait kro….
w slam goraya ap k.lawyer ko ager embassy walun ne koi emial ki to plz share kerye ga lazmi . allah kry july tk dy dy .
Ji Family viza, aap sy Tu zaroor share Kroon gi inshallah. Kyunky us ny fax ki hy Tu embassy bhi fax k through hi jawab dy gi. Lekin Mera khyal hy jub ye decide Ker lain gy tub lawyer ko bhi likhain gy. Dekho ab Kitna time aur lagaty Hain.
ager time.zaida ho jye to.kia dobara abh waly mery husband ko bhulaye gy. viza se pehly lazmi hia k abh waly husband ko inform.kry. mery husband k.pass forever viza not nationality . allah humary yeh mushkil.asan kry
Nahi Abh Waly bar bar Nahi bulaty. Aap bilkul fiker na karain ager aap ky husband ki taraf sy in ki Sab requirements Puri Hain Tu ye viza zaroor dain gy. Inshallah jub aur his time period main Allah ny likh dia hy Tu yaqeenan tab hi Milly ga. Hope for the best.
thanks inshallah
family visa ABH walony call ki thi ap k husband ko???
no uny letter aya tha k ap ducuments summit kervaye.
ok thanku so much.
I have applied in 1st may for camily reunion.
My lawyer visted me 2.5 weeks ago.from uc and from my home. abh recieved my husband’s documemts and confirmed him back that all is ok.
Ab visa call any main kitna time lag skta hai?
around 4-5 months if all your documents are ok
abhi embassy walo ki taraf se inquiry report send ki jaye ghi abh walo ko.phir woh noc jari kerein gye.lekin embassy waley interview k 6 months baad inquiry report send kerty hain so be paitence
Aoa….please suggest me one thing i received court order regarding cancellation of Birthcertificate….should i hire lawyer for further process for union council or deal with them by myself??? Lawyer just need money at each step ???
No, you don’t need to hire a lawyer for UC. Just go there with court order and ask them to correct it accordingly. A little bribe will help to accelerate the process.
Hope so…. jazakhallah
Any idea how much time required in it?
It depends on the people working in the UC.
In my daughter’s case they done it with in a week.
If you are from lahore…then 3 weeks are minimum minimum. Dont know for other cities.
aoa capricorn ap.khud hi yeh sb kery lawyer ki zarort nahi hia late idraj ki.file bnavye. UC sectery . chiarmian UC .2 Witness TEHSILDAR. AC Shab. MADICAL REPORT agian AC shab then UC sectery.and delete old f and issue new almost 2 week bhag bhag k
Agr lahore ka hai to 2 weeks boht kam hain…lahore walo ko mian munshi hospital jana hota hai medical k liye….or us main 3 weeks minimum lgty hain.
Ni sargodha sa hai mera ?
in sb k pass ap ko bari bari jana ho ga inshallah jald ho jye ga leken ik bat ka dhehan rakhye ga . mery bety ka uc walun ne delete nahi kia tha wo bi date change ker k dy dia humy bola k ker dia hia jb lawyer abi aya to us ne bola k bchy ka delete nahi hia bus modify hia jo delte hota hia us mian crm number change hota hia mian ne us lawyer ko bola tha k humari sir ghalti nahi hia hum.ne sara process kia hia us ne kaha mian ne ok ker dia hia dekhy ab agay kia kerta hia allah us k dill mian rehm daly objection ab na laga dy . uC waly khud delte nahi ker sakty hian nadra ka koi bandha bhula k kervty hian kyun k un ko password pata hota hia.
Ap ny apny UC secrtory ko phir bola nahi k ap ny sara procedure follow krny k bad bhi new data enter mahi kiya computer main or old hi modify krdiya hai computer sy? Yahan to UC walo sy larna bnta hai…
Beshak apka lawyer acha tha usny understand krliya…lekin itni mehnat k bad bhi UC walo ki ye bongi…brdasht nahi hoti.
cancellation ka bhut khial rakhye ga k pehly wala cancel kia hia ya nahi new mian crm number 2018 ho ga or jo old hia us mian ap ne jb banvaya crm number usi year ka ho ga.
Thank you so much @family viza jazakallah Allah pak apki or baki sab ki b muskilayn asan farmy or jald visa mil jy hum sab ko ameen
sectery ko mian ne call ki thi k ap ne ager cancel nahi kerna tha to ap humy bata daity hum nadra walun ko bhula k khud kerva laity leken wo yeh manany ko tair hi nahi k cancel hota hia wo kehta nahi sirf modify hota hia.allah kry lawyer ab objection na lagye allah us k dill mian rehm daly .
Han jb meri court main hearing thi tb mujhy b woh yehi kh rha tha k modify or refresh hta hai cancell ni…
Aslamu Alikam many 26/10/2017 ko file submit krwai thi or 6/1/2018 ko meri inquiry hoi or Meri file 26/1/2018 ko Germany pohnchi or unho ny mery husband ko letter bej k apny documents or interwe dy.mery husband 5/2/2018 ko ,submit krwa k aye or ab pata krny dobara gye Abh sy to unho ny kaha k 5/3/2018 ka visa bej diya hy Pakistan.but mujy abi tak visa cal ni I main kiya kro.
Walaikum Asalam,
Meri wife ki bhi 3 Jan 2018 ko inquiry ho gai thi us kay bd January kay end main meray documents ABH say chalay gay thay and we are also waiting still …. pta nahin kya masla hai embassy say pocho to wo kehtay hain wait krain process me hai …. ABH say pocha tha wo kehtay hain hum nay sb bhej dia hai ap embassy say pochain … ALLAH kray sb ka ajae visa jaldi say …. Ameen
In shaa Allah. Ameen. Before eid sab ka visa ajae ga.
Inshallah Allah kry ab aa jaye. Ye hu umer hy jany ki husband pass or kiya jab anti bn gye phir jaye gy. Ya Allah hm SB py fazal kr hmary visa aa jaye.
Bilkul Sahi Kaha Bhai, amen.
Bs ALLAH sb ki azmaish khatam farmaye ameen…. kyun kay shohar ka biwi ky begair aur biwi ka shohar kay begair , buchon ka walidain kay begair aur walidain ka buchon ky begair rehna bhaut mushkil hota hai….
Embassy wale itna delay q krte h? What’s the reason? Akhir hmari bhi tu majbori samje. Kese reh rhe h without our manns.
Pta nahin kya masla hai embassy ko bhi kuch smajh ni ati….
u must contact embassy
AoA kiya 6 months completed hony k bad embassy sy bat krni chahyee k q visa ni dy rhy jab san clear ho
Aslamu Alikam Allah g plz embassy walo k dil main shafqat dalo k wo hm py rehm kry ab visa dy dain. Husband bina zindgi esy hy jesy biryani without salt.visa g plz tusi aa jao na.plz Visa g BRI mehrbani hogi mujy ajj 7 months or 15 days hoge file submit krwai but embassy waly esy reflex hy jesy kal submit krwai ho.
Walaikum Asalam,
Behn bs dua krain apnay liay bhi sath main humaray liay bhi.
ALLAH sb ko khush aur abaad rkhay ameen
Ya Allah is Thursday Sab members Jo jldi Mai mjh smait unko vissa cal ajye :) ameen
Inshallah Allah kry ab aa jaye. Ye hu umer hy jany ki husband pass or kiya jab anti bn gye phir jaye gy. Ya Allah hm SB py fazal kr hmary visa aa jaye.
Ameeeen sumameen
In shaa Allah. Ameen. Before eid ya after eid bas visa call ajae gi sab ko. Umeed Rakho sab.
Hi @Sana
Ap nay kb apply kia tha, apni timeline share kr dain please ?
ameen sum.ameen allah sb ki.muskil asan kry
Allah Tala tamam members ko jald visa ki khushkhabri sunaein ameen sum ameen.
Allah sab per rehem kere
Islamabad embassy se contact krne ka koi trika he agr case status pta krna ho to.
Please help me
Today my wife got following email from Embassy.
” Your birth certificate is based on a birth entry which can be found in a bogus birth register. The birth register is allegedly from the year —-. But it has absolutely no traces of age, no stains of dampness or any dirt marks. Also the color tone of the writing ink is fresh. Please cancel your birth entry and the birth certificate which is based on it with the permission from court. After that – also with the permission from court – register your birth again by following the prescribed late entry procedure and obtain a new birth certificate.
The birth certificate of your husband bearing CRMS No —— was issued from Union Council No. ——– . But that Union Council is not in possession of the birth entry of your husband. The birth entry of your husband could be located at Birth&Death Section, Municipal Corporation, Rawalpindi. Please cancel the birth certificate of your husband bearing CRMS No: —— with the permission from court and obtain the correct birth certificate of your husband from Birth&Death Section, Municipal Corporation, Rawalpindi. ”
Can somebody guide me how to proceed further with both of the cases.
oh no afsos hia yar kitna ghalt kia inu nu kia inu ne dobara fees ja inquiry ka bi bola hia
Yes dobara say fee jamah krwani aray gi 30000 rupees….
Asalam Alykum i am Ali from Karachi i not yet submit any document i gonna start next month A1 language course. German Embassy build new website or you can say its upgraded i read there family reunion visa section a to z but this new upgraded embassy website there not mention anymore 30k fee before it was mention there but now not anymore can anyone visit website of embassy. I do not have nadra birth certificate i have old one that te i born so when i have to make my nadra birth certificate i have to bring my old certificate too ? I do not have to make old entry or what can anyone tell me or sugges me thank you so much. May Allah bless us all and Happy Eid Day .
Koi guide kr kay kay agay kasay proceed kia jaye ….
Kya apka or apki wife ka dono ka BC DUBRA bnwany ka bola hai unho ny ?
Or kindly kya ap ye btayein gy keh apky secretory ny kya kaha tha jb lawyer us k pass sy visit kr k gya tha? Kya usny apko kuch btaya tha tab k lawyer satisfy gya hai ya nahi?
This late entry birth registration process is only for punjab. In KPK, when anybody go to make birth certificate, its a simple and normal process. same affidavit, father & mother id card copy, school certificate, and thats it u wil get it the same day or very next day. in punjab, birth certificate is difficult to make while u have to do age assessment and all that.
aoa enquiry kia ap ne pehly new bnvaya tha december mian jo ap ne jama kervaya tha us ka kia issue tha.? plz share
Wo hum nay Union council say nikalwaya tha ab pta nahin lawyer nay kya kia hai aur kya report likh kay di hai …. no idea…
Is it true that lawyer ask for Rishwat every time, and if you don’t give him, he makes issue??
Its possible kay agr pasay pakra do to case clear kr deta ho ga ….
aoa enquiry ap lawyer kry wo ap ko court se cancel kerva dy ga . me also rawalpindi mian ne lawyer kia tha us ne 30000 fees li thi ik month k ander cancel kerva dia tha us k ly ap ko or sectery ko pesh huna ho ga .
Salam,
Could you please share the number of the lawyer which you hired ?
aoa enquriy. ap ne abi tk lawyer nahi kia ya ap ka case lataka raha hia. main ap ko number share to ker daiti hun leken abi admin ka comment a jye ga dont share number. lawyer ka asal masla yeh hota hia k iny pata hi nahi hota hia aplication kia deni hia case kia hia hum ne bhut se lawyer sw pata kia tha Allah k fazal se sb ko nahi pta tha . in ko phr thora pta tha wo bi kisi ne btaya tha. ap in se contact ker ly may be wo ap ki help ker saky Alllah hum sb ki muskily asan kry bndha shadi is ly kerta k court bi dekh ly Allah in embassy walun se ponchy jo orato ko court
k chakr mian zalel kerty hian. any way yeh number 0331 5163009 imran shab. rawalpindi court mian
yeh zarori nahi hia k her koi paisy ly ly koi to sedhy mun bat hi nahi kerta paisy kahan laity hian kuch ly laity hian zarori nahi k case ok kry. kyun k un ka pata hota hia k hum un ka kuch begar nahi sakty hian. na hum uny dobara mily gy . ap tension na lay her kam mian allah ki masilaht hoti hia asal mian sectery ki sari ghalti hoti hia oh bugtana humy parta hia
aoa.goraya embassy walun ne ap k lawyer koi fax koi reply ki hia? mujy to enquiry k reply k bad tension ho ri hia k yeh _humara kia kerty hian after 5 month bad objection laga dia shit yar ab to yeh bhut case lamba kry gy
Wasalaam family viza, sub sy pehly Tu aap ko Eid Mubarak. Yahaan Germany main Subha Eid hy.
Ji mujy bhi bohat afsoos huwa inquiry ky message Dekh ky.
Jo register wala objection hy MERI daughter Ka bhi same to same Likha tha.aik word Ka bhi difference Nahi tha.
Mera khyal hy ye case ko lamba kerny ky liey aisa kerty Hain. Aur aap ny Sahi Kaha, lawyer Tu seedy mun baat Nahi kerty, hamain kesy pata lagy GA ky unhain rishwat Chahiye.
Ab doosri dafa pata nahi lawyer Kia likh dy. Abhi tak Tu embassy ny koi jawab Nahi dia.
MERI daughter ki late entry Nahi thi lekin unhoon ny register Ka hi aitraz lagaya. Phir in ki instructions ky mutabiq court main case Ker ky court order Lia aur us ky mutabiq union council sy dobara inderaaj kerwaya lekin 2018 ky register main. Original register entry UC sy cancel kerwayae.
Phir sary papers court order+ new birth certificate + uc register ky new entry page ki photo copy + 30000 rp on 10.04 ko jama kerway than lawyer visited on 3.05.2018.
Inquiry ky objection ko Dekh ky Lagta hy KY 2 sy 3 month lagy gain court and UC procedure and than again 6 months for inquiry and decision.
Kia ho sakta hy, is sary process sy Tu guzerna hi ho ga. We have no other option. Aap bhi pareshaan na hoon, bus Allah sy duwa karain. Inshallah sub theek ho ga kyunky jub Wo sub theek kerny py atta hy Tu koi Kuch kharaab Nahi Ker Sakta.
Jab hum ne aply krna tha hum ko koi btane wala nai tha..
Ap ko kisi bhi chez ki information leni ho to ap ider rabta kr sakte hain
Bilkul Sahi Kaha Rameez Bhai,
People on this forum are very nice and they share thier experiences sincerely. It is a chain of help and sadqa jaria. Jazak Allah Al Khair.
Wo bnde to kush naseeb hain jo aply krne se pahle yehan aa gaye hum aply kr k dhake kha k end pe yehan aye hain
Salam. I have submitted my family reunion case in first week of february in islamabad embassy. In march my wife recieved a letter there in auslanderbehorde regarding submission of documents. She submitted those documents very next day and cleared by them. Then in first week of may , lawyer visited me and declared everything perfect ALHAMDOLILAH. Till then, i have not recieved any response from embassy. Today, My wife called auslanderbehore and they said everything is cleared here, we are just waiting for yours husband’s verification letter from pakistan. Please tell me how much time now should i expect?
please do reply
Aap ko ab cal aaye gi bohet jaldi aap her Thursday mobile k pas rahen best of luck agr koi objections na lage to 6 mahiney lagte hain.
INSHALLAH rameez bhai. Wahan se b sab clear hai aur yahan se b lawyer keh raha sab theek hai ap k documents mai koi masla nahe. Bas visa call ka wait kar rha. July me 6 months b pooray ho jayen gai
meri wife ka interview 3 jan ko hua tha aur inquiry 13 jan ko,embassy ne koi objection nahi lagaya.yahan se bhi paper complete hain lekin abhi tak auslanderbehorde waley embassy k intezar main hain k embassy papers send kere aur woh NOC jari kerein.
Ap k 6 months complete honay walay hain haider bhai. Aap wahan blue card pe hain?
nahi mere pass italien permanent residency hai aur us ke behalf per yahan kaam ker raha hoon
aoa rameez bahi. kia zarori hia k thursday ko hi viza call ayi hia ?
Visa related call zeyada Thursday ko hi aati he