By:
Abdul Majid Malik <majid.malik[@]yahoo.com>;
Dear Members Assalam-o-Alaikum,
I am writing this email to let members know few things about family reunion and some mistakes which must be avoided. If some friend is going to get married in Pakistan, please tell him/her about these issues. Simple looking mistakes can cause big trouble and delay later in family reunion.
About Nikah Registration:
Registration of Nikah involves three people: Nikah Khawan, Nikah Registrar and Union council. UC gives a register with 50 leaves to Nikah-Registrar. Each leave contains Nikah Nama ” Form II” in quadruplicate. In one UC , only a single Registrar can have the register. In usual case, Nikah Khawan goes to Registrar(if he is himself not a registrar) and gets a Nikah nama Form II (which has fours copies). One copy each (filled and signed) is given to Duhla, Dulhan,Registrar and UC.
1. Take care that Nikah is registered at the same Union Council where Nikah has taken place .Address written on filled Nikahnama should be in the UC where Nikah is registered. Any thing different to this created big problem for many ,especially those who did Nikha in a Marriage Hall and brought Molvi sahib from some other UC. If you made this mistake, count a delay of at least 3 months. Embassy will raise objection as the lawyer sent for Marriage verification would like to see your Nikah registered at the same UC as address written on Nikahnama. You may be to asked to change registration of your marriage from one UC to other through a court procedure in Pakistan.
2. Please closely check all the four copies of the filled Nikah-Nama for any mistake in names, ID card nr., date of birth etc. Check that all signatures are there at right place and stamp of Nikah-Registrar is present. Many take things lightly in Pakistan while filling forms.
3. Telephonic Nikah is big no no. You must be present there as German Embassy/consulate now checks it from entry and exit stamps on your passport. If there are some unavoidable circumstances, give a written power of attorney which has legal value i.e signed in front of Notary Public/judge or from Pakistani embassy/consulate (in case they deal with it) to your father to represent you during Nikah. Better be present there. Your absence will complicate the matters and hence the delay/rejection as a consequence.
5. Some people I talked to have made mistake while getting online appointment. You mad a mistake in name, passport number or email address than most probably you will not be able to submit documents on that day. In my experience, if you decide to take an appointment for family reunion, you normally get it after 4 to 6 weeks. So missing an appointment can be source of further delay.6. The interview by lawyer or at embassy may involve basic questions from your spouse about you. Newly married; make sure he/she has all the basic info about you.
7. Spouse of a Blue Card holder is exempted from providing A-1 German language certificate. About this, don’t believe on what they say on phone :). If your spouse can’t manage to do a language course in Pakistan, present following reference of the concerned Law as proof on your appointment day:
http://www.bluecard-eu.de/eu-blue-card-germany/residence-act/spouse.html
http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/aufenthg_2004/__30.html
8. In some cities, there were cases when Ausländerbehorde(ABH) objected that the spouse in Germany is passing through the probation period of job. In some cities ,they ask for salary slips of 6 months while in others only for 3 months or just a job contract. Talk to other Pakistanis/Indians who have experience of dealing with the same ABH so that you can proceed accordingly.
Please correct if I am wrong on any account. The info is based on posts of members on this forum, experiences of acquaintances and my personal experience.
If you know some other issues which you or someone known to you faced, kindly share on this forum. This will facilitate others in their family reunion.
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Ap apny lawyer sy bhi call kar k puch skty hain k unho ny submit krwa diye hain documents ya nahi…wohi apko sb sy nhtr btayein gy.
G karwa diye hain mai ne poocha unse. Wo keh rhy thay sab theek hai apka aur koi masla nahe apko visa call aa jaye ge jaldi INSHALLAH. Ab pata nahe kab aaye ge
atleast six months
G bas july he reh gaya hai. Apka b 3 july pooray honay walay ALLAH karay apko b call aa jaye uss se pehlay ameen
ji Allah khair kere.sab ki mushkil asaan ho,ameen sum ameen
Anyone waiting for the allocation of appointment?
I am waiting for the appointment. Its almost 3 months now :(
What is your reference number?
Aoa…. i applied for the cancellation of Birthcertificate as per embassy requirement cancellation process is in process get confirmation of cancellation from union cou ncil….but pending from nadra end my question is in the meanwhile may i apply for new birthcertificate or i have to wait for the cancellation confirmation from nadra as well…
plz reply thanks inadvance
Im in the same situation waiting for nadra but what can i say i don’t want trouble now are yiu from Lahore?
Am from sargodha…so what should we do now??? What is the last date of your document submission in embassy ???
They have given you date but they have n’t given me any date about that and one thing more when the nadra said they will send letter to cancell
Uffhhh……. Allah karam kry sab pa apna Ameen or sabko visa mil jy jaldi ameen
Salam guys. Kia mujhay koi bata sakta hai k jaisay punjab mai late birth certificate according to law bananay ka tareeqa thora diificult hai like age asssessment aur kuch aur formalities b poori karni parti hain. Tou kia KPK mai b yahe law hai? Mujhay lawyer ne batya k ye law sirf punjab me hai, kpk mai simple hai jaisay k affidavit, father id card aur educational document jam karwa do, apko ussi din ya next day mil jata hai. Mujha koi ye cheez comfirm kar de plz? Lawyer ne batya k kpk mai late birth certificate bananay ka yahe tareeeqa hai simple wala. Punjab aur sindh mai sirf mushkil hai. Confirm please?
Mera case thora different he jo bnda sab se zeyada expert he wo aa jaye hamary conversation ki wjaa se hmare knowledge increase ho ga or logo ka bhi
Rameez bhai aaap mere birth certificate wali baat ka jawab de saktay hain?
Waiting for your reply.
Kal thursday hai expect kar raha hoon call aaye visa ki but abi tak tou inquiry report he nahe gaye wahan ABH mai. Ya kia pata chali gaye ho aur wo bata na rahay hon aur process na kia ho unho ne abi tak
Aap birth certificate ka keya maasla he mujhe btayen pahle
EDIT BY ADMIN. NO PHONE NUMBERs here PLEASE!
Aap mujhe cal krna lazmi aap ko 1 trika batyun ga
Aslamu Alikam sab ka kiya hal theak hy sab.koi mujy bta skta hy k jo A1 ka certificate hota hy wo agar submit krwa dy to visa na aye to uski expired date aa jaye to kiya dobara krna parta hy deauth course.q k many 10 October 2017 main file submit krwai thi but abi tak no visa ??????????????????????????? ab mera certificate b agust main expired ho jana hy or embassy koi RESPONSE ni dy rhi bohat pershan hon visa ki waja sy Allah fazal kry sab or sab k visa aa ajyeeeee ameen
Jahan tak mai ne suna hai a1 course ki koi expiry nahe hote. Certificate pe b expiry date nahe likhi hote so dont worry
Mera b august main one year ho jna hai mainy suna hai k some time embassy applicant sa ek email likhwa lati hai or kuch vocublary poch lati hai ya vorstellung….dont know ab kya sach hai
Mujhe aik saal se bhi ziada ho gaya hai capricorn aap ne cancel karwane k liye jo application fi hai usska time frame kia btaya hai un logo ne aur embassy ne aapko kitna time dia tha aur sath mein 30000 fee ka bhi bola tha kia
Koi time ni btya cancellation ka embassy na 2.5months ka time dia hai 30 july last date hai or ji 30k b fee mangi hai
aoa anam ik sal k bad embassy mian 30 questions ka short test ly k viza daity hian . a1 ka dobara test nahi hota leken embassy waly test ly k hi viza daity hian
Anam aap ka objection laga tha koi??
Yes kiya hy waqeel but wo kehta hy k German abh sy sb theak clear ho paper chaly gye or abh walo ny permission b dy di mery visy ab main kiya kro kuch smj ni aa rha
When you get the appointment, please let me know
Kis type k questions
Don’t basic of german A1 se bhu easy hota he
Maine A1 bhi nai kiya…
Meldung bhi nai di…
Case submit ho geya enquiry bhi ho gai he
Ni kuch b objection ni lga 10 october ko 1 sal ho jana hy file submit krwaye or a1 8 maheeny expire jb b pocho embasy sy to wo kehty hy file prosses main hy or waha abh walo sy pochy husband to wo kehty hy k 5 march ka yaha sy sab clear kr beja hy app Pakistan sy pta kry q visa ni dy rhy abb khuda hi fazal kry main bohat pershan hun main susral main with out husband reh rhi hun .phone py hi nikah huwa ths mera app sab sy guzarish hy k mery liye dua kry.allah hm sab ki mushkil adam kry.
Aap ka nikah phon pe huwa tha ?
Allah pak asania peda kry or sab jald apny husbands k pass chly jy ameen
Sorry to say but you might get objection on telephonic nikah as it is not acceptable in German embassy ..you need power of attorney,,court orders kinda things
hire a lawyer in Germany
Yes kiya hy waqeel but wo kehta hy k German abh sy sb theak clear ho paper chaly gye or abh walo ny permission b dy di mery visy ab main kiya kro kuch smj ni aa rha
Ni main jab embasy gye thi to ye poch k i thi to wo kehty hy k ye acceptable hy beauce my husband have blue pass port wo Pakistan aa ni sakty ager aa sakty hoty or nikah fone py hota to phir objection hy tha ab ni. Or ager ho b koi masla to embassy ko btana chayee esy to ni 8 months ho gye file submit huwy.
Assalamu alaikum
Plz koi meri help kar sakta hay?mera family reunion ka case hay german embassy mein r mera interview august 2017 ko huwa tha. Magr baad mein unhoum ne mery husband k documents mangy thay r mery husband ne december mein documents submit karwaye thay. Wakeel ne kaha tha k 4 months lag jaein gy mery husband k documents varification py magr abhi 6 months hogaye hein mery husband ko documents submit karwaye r mujy 10 months hogaye hein case submit karwaye.abhi tak kuch pta nhi kia problem hay.
Maryam madam Aslam o alaikum.
Ap apne husband ko bolen k wo germany main Abh jayen puchen keya masla he
Mujhy nahi smjh ati kesy itna itna time sab log wait kar lyty hain..10 months are too much after file submission
Hello any one can tell me when i will get appointmnt email from embassy . I mean how much time they will take . Almost 2 months before i applied for appointmnt . I am very much worried.
I am waiting for 3 months now. No response from them yet.
Muje after 3.5 month k date mili hai.
I applied on feb 15- got appointment email on May 28 and got the date of July 11.
so almost after 6 months.
You have to wait too.
they dont give out the waiting times!!.. just keep checking your email.
Aslamu Alikam gays sab bechary phasy pary hy ye hmari islambad wali embassy k log bohat hi ghatiyaa qism k hy muhy to lgta hy jesy soe huwy hy inko nzar ni ataa logo ki zindgi ka swal hy or ye araam sy keh dety hy wait kry app wait kry bas hadd ho gi yar itna zalil kiya huwa hy hmy na swal na jwab intahi beshram qoum hy ???pigs kahi k
Allah hi kr skta hy behn hm ny b allah tawaql kiya huwa hy or to koi chara ni???apny khuda sy hi madat mango bs wohi deny wala hy.
Bt normally kitna time lg raha hai ajkal appointmnt k lie ?
Mujhy after 2 months appointment ki date mili thi..next 1 month bad ki..dont worry apko inhi days main mail aa jaye g
Ap ko kab email ayi thi jo ap ne 2 months wait kya or kis month ki date mili? Mein to 3 months se wait kr rahi hn abhi tk email ni ayi hai.
Sub ky comments parhny k baad i think har koi problm main hai kia visa boht mushkil say milta hai .0?
What is the proper way of submitting birth certificate with late entry ? Uc ki file main kon say documnts lgty hain ? Aur medical ki konci report attach hoti hai
First of all you have to clear every thing before submit your case….
Nai to 5 mahiney ka kam saal pe chalabjaye ga
aoa mujhy pochna hai k mery husband ny job change kr li hai documents pehli job k submit kraey han main ny mery husband ny ABH walon ko inform kr diya hai yahan embassy main bhi new job conyract submit krana parry ga?
I think ABH is the authority to verify about tha job because embassy can’t do this so always behorde send the report about any issue if it is about job so don’t think so it is important to inform embassy
dont submit until they ask u while abh is resposible for ur income verification
Aoa to all
Can anybody suggest me about that which day i can go to embassy to submit my birt certificate i have done every thing now i javr to submit the new one after cancellation from the court can i go to Monday
You should go to the embassy according to the time which they mentioned on your email of objection.on my they mentioned monday and tuesday
And plz tell me one thing may i applied for the new one birth certificate while my old birthcertifcate cancellation is in processs.
No no no you have to clear this objection
Ok thank you jazakhallah
aoa capricorn ap ne late entry wala sara process complete ker leha hia mean numberdar ac etc kia ap ne sb complete ker leha hia
Wsalam……. mera ab cantonment board main entry ho rhi us main yeh ni hai
Capricorn app jab Monday ko embassy bye to sath thora cool water b ly jaye ga or unky face py thora thora dal k aye gas ta k WO neend sy jagg saky or hmari qismat b jag jaye pata in q itna late kr rhy hy.unhy ye in pta k zindgi 1 bar hi milni hy or WO b intzar main guzer rhi hy.
Exactly?? ap sahi kh rhi ho
anam bus hum.duha hi ker sakty hian apny liye allah huamry naseeb khol dy or humy viza mil jye
Family visa ameen inshaallah zrur zrur Allah mejrban hy fazal kry GS JM py apna
aoa goraya kaisi hian ? ap k lawyer ko embassy walun ne koi reply kia hia ? in month to ho gaya inquiry leken abi koi reply nahi aya hia
Wasalaam family viza, thanks I a fine.
Ji abhi tak Tu koi news Nahi, lekin I am worried about the papers I submit after objection.
I think we did not understand what they have demanded.
They put the objection on the birth register of UC.
My daughter’ s birth certificate was with normal inderaaj. I mean we make the inderaaj in UC with in three weeks of birth.
We got the court order according to the objection but did not done late entry birth procedure. Now I don’t know what they will do?
It’s really very complicated. Don’t ok now what to do now?
Do you have any idea?
The birth certificate is registered as normal with in 60 days of birth so it’s normal not late proccess and i am not sure what the objection uc has made in your case ,your daughter certificate didn’t need the late process
Some time they demanding the hospital birth certificate .
Ap hospital ka birth certificate diya tha sath??
w slam goraya ap ki beti ki k mial mian ne pari thi jo ap ne share ki thi us mian late entry ka to issue nahi tha . just old ap ne court oder k bad cancel kervana tha or new bnavana tha wo to ap ne un ki demand k mutabik bnava lia. mera late entry ja issue tha to mujy embassy ne clear lekha tha k ap k late entry proper procdure se nahi huwi hia . ap fikar na kry ab objection nahi lgy ga inshAllah . bus viza july tk humy mil jye ga
Ji, wo Email jo Kuch din pehly Kisi ny share ki thi, exactly I got the same objection. But my letter from Embassy was in Deutsch. Because they sent it to my lawyer.
Us main unhoon ny Likha k register ki entry purani Nahi lagti bla bla. Than they recommended that to get court order to remove that entry and re enter again with late entry procedure. So we got court order and give it to UC and they removed old entry and have done new entry according to court order. Than they issued new birth certificate with entry date 2 April 2018 and issue date 7 April 2018 and status Normal entry. We asked them to write late entry but they said it is not late entry so they can not change it.
So that’s why I am confused that what to do now?
Should I now follow the late entry procedure to save time?
And am really don’t know what is that procedure.