Family Reunion – Pakistan – General info for all to avoid mistakes

By:
Abdul Majid Malik <majid.malik[@]yahoo.com>;
Dear Members Assalam-o-Alaikum,
I am writing this email to let members know few things about family reunion and some mistakes which must be avoided. If some friend is going to get married  in Pakistan, please tell him/her about these issues. Simple looking mistakes can cause big trouble and delay later in family reunion.
About Nikah Registration:
Registration of Nikah involves three people:  Nikah Khawan, Nikah Registrar  and Union council. UC gives a register with 50 leaves to Nikah-Registrar. Each leave contains Nikah Nama ” Form II” in quadruplicate. In one UC , only a single Registrar can have the register.  In usual case, Nikah Khawan goes to Registrar(if he is himself not a registrar) and gets a Nikah nama Form II (which has fours copies). One copy each (filled and signed) is given to  Duhla, Dulhan,Registrar and UC.
1. Take care that Nikah is registered at the same Union Council where Nikah has taken place .Address written on filled Nikahnama should be in the UC where Nikah is registered.  Any thing different to this created big problem for many ,especially those who did Nikha in a Marriage Hall and brought Molvi sahib from some other UC. If you made this mistake, count a delay of at least 3 months. Embassy will raise objection as the lawyer sent for Marriage verification would like to see your Nikah registered at the same UC as address written on Nikahnama. You may be to asked to change registration of your marriage from one UC to other through a court procedure in Pakistan.
2. Please closely check all the four copies of the filled Nikah-Nama for any mistake in names, ID card nr., date of birth etc. Check that all signatures are there at right place and stamp of Nikah-Registrar is present. Many take things lightly in Pakistan while filling forms.
3. Telephonic Nikah is big no no. You must be present there as German Embassy/consulate now checks it from entry and exit stamps on your passport. If there are some unavoidable circumstances, give a written power of attorney which has legal value i.e signed in front of Notary Public/judge or from Pakistani embassy/consulate (in case they deal with it) to your father to represent you during Nikah.  Better be present there. Your absence will complicate the matters and hence the delay/rejection as a consequence.
4.  Carefully read the requirements of Embassy for Family reunion. If any question arises, call embassy to get an answer. Don’t rely blindly on the info collected from here and there.
5. Some people I talked to have made mistake while getting online appointment. You mad a mistake in name, passport number or email address than most probably you will not be able to submit documents on that day. In my experience, if you decide to take an appointment for family reunion, you normally get it after 4 to 6 weeks. So missing an appointment can be source of further delay.6. The interview by lawyer or at embassy may involve basic questions from your spouse about you. Newly married; make sure he/she has all the basic info about you.

7. Spouse of a Blue Card holder is exempted from providing A-1 German language certificate. About this, don’t believe on what they say on phone :). If your spouse can’t manage to do a language course in Pakistan, present following reference of the concerned Law  as proof on your appointment day:

http://www.bluecard-eu.de/eu-blue-card-germany/residence-act/spouse.html 

http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/aufenthg_2004/__30.html

8. In some cities, there were cases when Ausländerbehorde(ABH) objected that the spouse in Germany is passing through the probation period of job.  In some cities ,they ask for salary slips of 6 months while in others only for 3 months or just a job contract. Talk to other Pakistanis/Indians who have experience of dealing with the same ABH  so that you can proceed accordingly.

Please correct if I am wrong on any account. The info is based on posts of members on this forum, experiences of acquaintances and my personal experience.

If you know some other issues which you or someone known to you faced, kindly share on this forum. This will facilitate others in their family reunion.

3,289 comments

  • roheel

    you paid him bribe thats why now he is thinking its a fake nikah, birth cirtificate thek karwa k embassy k responce ka wait kro, embassy decide kra gi visa ka lawyer nai n rishwat deni nai chahya thi apko osa

    • Aleya khan

      Roheel bhai 5000 Rs. This is my husband Handy Nummer 015775386357 . Aur y BIRTH CERTIFICATE kasay teek hoga. He is Living in Stuttgart. Us ko aap ki help ki zarurat hai. Lawyer keh raha tha agar y Love Marriage hai aur Facebook p friendship start hui hai to Facebook Dekado. May ne usay kaha abhi Call auf wtsapp p baat hoti hai. Facebook me ne 2015 me htm kerdya. Wo Serf zor derahatha Facebook pe. Mere husband ka Facebook k naam k baray m pucha. Baad m us n screen Shots leye wtsapp k. Woh keh raha tha Embassy Wale Kia kahengay Facebook ka Record kedhar hai. Aya Embassy visa Reject karega Ya in Fotos nekaah waghera p yaqeen karega. Molvi say bei mela Union council me nekaah k Register kay Photos bhi leye. Sub kuch sahi hai lekan Facebook p zor deraha tha. Jab saray Points us nay lekhdeye to mujhay Paper deya may tujhay bolunga aur tum y sara Story lekhdo. Us nay kaha ye Story me Embassy me dunga keh aap Amy esa kaha tha. Question jab nekaah sahi hai Photos sahi hai to Embassy objection karegy?

      • roheel

        mein try kro ga ap k husband se bt krna ki, ap ko lawyer neh jo kaha wo lekna nai chahya tha, and facebook par is lia zor da rha tha k embassy pocha gi k ap log kidar mila ho aur kia proof hai, ap neh nikah kiya hai sirf ya pori shadi ki hai? court marriage tu nai na? and family waqra ki pics di han jo shadi k time li thi?

      • roheel

        unko mara bara mein bta di aur un ka naam mujha btao ap husband ka

        • Aleya khan

          Us ka Name Amir hai. Aur wo aap ka w8 ker raha hai.

          • roheel

            mein un se phone par bt kro ga kuch daar tak bec am at work right now

          • Muhammad

            May I know the name of laywer, if I may know? normaly, in such a case the lawyer only wants bribe money. There is no such law to capture whatsapp screenshots or facebook. Its too much personal. Germans are very much strict to data and privacy policy. You should have asked the lawyer, that who gave him permission to get into your privacy? does he had any authority letter?

            In my opinion, don’t you worry. Lawyer can’t say that embassy will reject visa or embassy will raise objection, its not part of his job. He can only verify validity of documents issued by local or federal govt. If he thinks nikkah nama is not valid, then he has to challenge Union Council and NADRA. I am sure, he is not that stupid to take this risk of losing his job. I would say, just wait for an answer from the embassy.

          • roheel

            apka husband ka number thek se bhajo number off hai, and bro mara case mein bi fb aur whatsapp k screenshot manga tha, inki verfication bohat strict hai aur bohat privacy tak jata han, mara sath howa tha aisa magar mujha visa mil gaya tha n kisi neh nai kaha tha k mara nikah fake hai wagra wagra, Aliya apna kam ap khud kharab kro gi, embassy se panga nai krna apna visa tak

          • Muhammad

            I agree with Roheel, don’t mess with embassy. Hold and wait until you get a response from the embassy.

          • roheel

            yes bec embassy have authority to do everything, if anybody mess with them then i will do their own lose, and Aliya khan i spoke with ur husband, i told him what he have to do

          • roheel

            yes bec embassy have authority to do everything, if anybody mess with them then they will do their own lose, and Aliya khan i spoke with ur husband, i told him what he have to do

  • Aleya khan

    Thanks alot of. But i am waiting for the Next Step. Me ne apni Story Paper p lekh dy .After that i have sign the Paper and finger print also.

    • roheel

      it was same in my time, written lawyer leta hai appliciant se, ap ab embassy k response ka wait karo, kyun k jo hogaya ho gaya, embassy ka apna decision hota hai,

  • mr khan

    got letter from embassy to cancel old birth certificate and make new one through court where i live there is no Uc only one office who issue this and i am not sure if they will cancel my old one because they said your document is fine it should be accepted but its not so i will do lawyer but in the end don,t know they will cancel the old one or issue the same with new date but in capital the rules are different and nobody can make wrong birth certificate my birth certificate is true and legal thats why they said they can not cancel it will update what happen after court order and remember only nadra can delete the old one birth certificate office can not beacuse they are using nadra software and they have no option to delete in their computer at the systam of that office of birth certifiate

  • Tahira irfan

    aoa roheel bahi kia lahore test dy ya islambad koi frq hia .mian ne pehly islambad dia hia or mian fail ho gi. ab 21 october ko.lahore hia ap k.khial.mian lahore muskil hota hia ? ?mujy sb students kehti k.wahan bhut shor hota hia horen ki samjh nahj ati. bitte ot theme bi difficult hoty. ager ap ko.ya kisi ko.is bry mian informtion hia to plz btaye ga.

    • roheel

      test ap jidar mirzi dien koi masla nai, certificate matter hai n wo chahya apko,and test mein mehnat kar k dien, lahore bi log exam deta han, sb islamabad nai deta, mein isb se A1 kia tha kyun k lahore mujha kashmir se dour parta tha

  • Tahira irfan

    A1 mera clear nahi hia . embassy mang ri hia

    • roheel

      A1 lazmi hai visa k lia, yahan bi A1 mangta han jb residency card apply karna jao tu, mujha se manga tha n mene dikhya n ab mara pass residency card hai

  • Khan

    @Roheel: In which number you call embassy. Normally they dont recieve the call?

    • roheel

      i didnt call embassy they called me

      • Khan

        In your one post I read you called embassy, that why I asked you

        • roheel

          i tried to call embassy but no responce from them

          • pineapple

            roheel you got your visa you can camplain againts stupid laywers and about staff who work in islamabad embassy you should really camplain so the upcoming applicant be save from the stupid lawyers and staff just write a strong email to the head of german embassy and one in the main office of germany

          • roheel

            off course i will take revenge to german embassy islamabad now i am out shit of them so they cant do nothing with me, i have some people to embassy in my mind dear n they will see soon whatever i am gona do with them

          • pineapple

            yes please do that so next applicants can be save from their dirty games once i will get visa i will defintly camplain i will reach everywhere to camplain againts these pakistani stupid people working in the embassy and these stupid lawyers who work for embassy

          • roheel

            everybody should do that whoever already visa

          • pineapple

            german ambassador have his twitter and facebook account anybdy who want to camplain againts lawyer or staff can direct reached to him

          • roheel

            dont worry i know what i have to do n how to do

  • Family reunion

    Does any Body share how Long it took for the Family visa from german embassy Islamabad recently? It is almost two months since the lawyer from embassy visit my wife and was everything ok.
    Thanks

    • FAMILYREUNION

      i have applied on 17th august in islamabad embassy. lawyer visited me on 24th august. since then no response . my wife didnt recieved any letter yet in germany. My wife is German national.

  • Tahira irfan

    aoa roheel bahi. kaisy hian? mian ne kuch information leni thi. mIan ne july mian aply kia hia august mian meri inquiry ho gi or ab october mian mery husband ki bi germany se ho gi hia sb kuch ok hia. leken mian ne A1 jama nahi kervaya kia emabssy waly mujy call kr k deadline dy ga A1 ki ya wait kry gy
    . abi 25 november ko mera test hia duha kerye ga clear ho jye ..

    • roheel

      mara case mein same tha, apko deadline da gien, mujha bi di thi lekin jb deadline k lia call ki os k ek din pehla mara result aya tha n A1 clear hogaya tha, and mene unko kaha k next week mein certificate bhajo ga kyun k abi certificate aya nai, then mene bhaja certificate n ek week baad mujha visa call ah gayi thi, and visa call k 1 week baad ka ana ka kaha n 1 August ko ana ka kaha aur visa laga k mara passport wapis kar dia, 3 ganta mein

      • mm

        roheel aap ne visa protector be krwia tha kia ?

        • Roheel

          omg dubai ja raha ho kia? germany k lia koi protector or medicial nai

          • mm

            roheel aik bat or please kia aap ne id card change kareiwa tha ? i mean germany country be mention hai aap k id card me ya normal pakistani id card tha or german ka nam mention nhi tha ?

          • mm

            roheel aik bat or please kia aap ne id card change kareiwa tha ? i mean germany country be mention hai aap k id card me ya normal pakistani id card tha or german ka nam mention nhi tha ??

          • mm

            or kia aap ne ticket one side ki khardi hai?

          • Roheel

            family reunion visa mein 1 side ticket lena parta hai and is ki price jo mene paid ki thi tb 620€ and double side 640€ lol,

          • mm

            roheel aik bat or please kia aap ne id card change kareiwa tha ? i mean germany country be mention hai aap k id card me ya normal pakistani id card tha or german ka nam mention nhi tha ??.

          • Roheel

            nadra mein shadi register karwani parti hai jb Frc banawana jao, Family registattion certificate, and os k lia urdu wala id card change hota hai, mara bi change howa tha, and english id apko tb zorat para gi jb ap ki german citizen ay gi

  • umer

    any update from anyone ? kisi ko embassy sy interview ya visa ki call ai ? jinho ny june-july mai apply kia tha ?

  • Tahira irfan

    aoa umer mian ne july mian aply kia tha. abi tk embassy se koi call nahi ayi .

  • Family reunion

    Salam
    12 July ko apply kiya
    26 august ko Lawyer Aya
    Still waiting
    Ma Ausländeramt gay tha last Week.. they said your Wife’s visa Status is “verifying documents” after that Ausländeramt Call me to come in Office.
    Can anyone tell; How long does it takes and what i Need to do?
    Embassy visa section Replied my email in september that ” we received all the requested documents, yours wife’s visa is under Process.
    Thanks

  • Tahira irfan

    aoa family reunion. kia ap ko Ausländeramt walun ne bhula hia ap ka wahan se process complete ho gaya hia
    .

    • Family reunion

      Tahira no
      Wo keh rahy hain k Abi embassy waly documents verify kar rahy hain .. ic k baad ham ap ko bula lain gay.
      12 July ko apply kiya tha.. Lawyer 26 ko Aya ic k baad embassy ka Email Reply Aya tha k we received all the requested documents.
      Ab Koi ans ni Kisi tarf sy bhe.. I Think Everything is alright. Agr Koi documents ka issue hota or onko Kuch mery sy chayea hota wo Contact karty .
      Ap ka Kia bana?

  • Tahira irfan

    mian ne 6 july ko aply kia tha. 22 august ko lawyer ne ghar visit kia . october mian mery husband ko Ausländeramt walun ne bhula k wahan jo ducuments chahye wo jama ker liye hian .. abi mian ne A1 jama nahi kervaya bus wo reh ga wait ker rehy hian.. dekhy . i think 6 month bad hi viza daity hian .

  • Family reunion

    Guten Morgen/ Salam
    My wife Applied for Family reunion visa in July 2017. Lawyer visited us on 26 August 2017. I called embassy , they said that , we sent your complete documents after inquiery from pakistan to Germany. I visited Ausländerbehörde 2 times, they said your documents are still in Process in auswärtigungamt, when they Complete their job than we will Call You via Post in Ausländerbehörde.
    Can Somebody tell us.. is Everything is ok with our visa Process and what will happen Next and How long does it take more.
    Thanks for helpfull answers…

  • Tahira irfan

    aoa
    kahian cases mian aisa bi hota hia k deutschland se inquiry nahi hoti hia. or ap ki wife ko viza call a jati hia. humary acdmy mian kafi larkio k case mian aisa huwa hia k un k husband ki inquiry nahi huwi hia may be ap ki bi na ho . jinu ne july mian aply kia un mian se abi kisi ko bi viza call nahi ayi hia . be positive koi issue nahi ho ga . ager ducuments ka koi masla hota to abi tk embbasy waly ap ki wife se contact ker chuky hoty .

    • Family reunion

      W salam
      Thanks for Info.
      September ko Germany ma papers aa gay thay.. abi tak Germans are Working on it. Mujhy smjh ni ati k Yeah itna Time q Lay rahy hain.. Pakistan ma Lawyer ko sary Records Mily.. Date bhe correct tha.. ab Germans Kia kar rahy hain 3 months sy ..
      Inshallah sab ka ho jay ga

  • family viza

    hello. jinu ne july aply kia kia un mian se kisi ko viza call ayi hia .? kitna time lgy ga viza milny pe

  • family viza

    roheel kia ap k.dost ne july mian aply kia tha

  • Family reunion

    Apply July ma kiya
    Lawyer August ma Aya..
    Still waiting…

  • FAMILYREUNION

    i had a missed call today from 002300 number. i doubt if it was embassy who called me

  • family viza

    july.mian apply kerny walun kuch bna ap logo ka. embassy walun ne koi rabta nahi kia sb kuch ok hia

  • Family reunion

    Apply July ma kiya
    Lawyer August ma Aya..
    Still waiting…

  • family viza

    w slam . embassy walun ki bi kuch samjh nahi a ri hia . hum 2 larkio ne july mian aply kia humara sb ok hia bus A1 ab clear ho gaya hia wo bi tuesday ko jama kervana hia ab dekhy kia kerty hian. ik larki ne august mian aply kia us ko embassy walun ne call ker di k ap ka viza a gaya a1 jama kervaye .omeed hia k A1 jama kervany k bad humy bi viza is month mil jye ga . inshallah

    • Family reunion

      Congrats for A1.
      Meri Wife k papers tou 1st day sy Complete thay… each and Everything submit ki.. Lawyer inquiery ma sary Records Mily.. Lawyer kehta tha k ap k Case Perfect hai.. July ko apply kiya Ab Next Week 5 months ho jain gay.. Allah kary ga inshallah.. duwa karain Hamary liya bhe.. Mujhy Ausländeramt ny bhe Koi Call ni ki.. Maine wasy Jobs contracts and Wohnung contracts bhe visa File k Sath dy diya thay..

  • family viza

    allah jany yeh kis tarteeb se process kerty hian.

  • family viza

    thanks ap k pass nationality hia ya forever viza.

  • family viza

    mery husband k pass bi forever viza hia . inshalllah jald hi ap ko bi call ker k bhula ly gy or inshalalh one week bad ap ki wife ko viza mil jye ga .

  • mm

    alhumdulillah mera visa lag gya 8 month baad

  • Ali

    Asalam Alykum all brothers and sisters please mere aak confusion hai jo Embassy se Lawyer ata hai woh interview aap ke apne ghar me leta hai ? ya sirf visit karne ata hai ? or interview ke call baad me ate hai jo ke embassy me ja kar dena hota hai ?
    Please reply as soon as possible thanks
    Jazak Allah

    • umer

      he will visit you at your home,probably will call before coming and will take interviews and ask many questions from you and your family after that he will submit the his report to embassy and embassy will ask for a final interview(after 5-6months from the date you applied) if your spouse is German national and then they will issue you visa

  • Aleya khan

    Assalam o Alikum 17 august ko apply Kia tha 10 october ko wakeel aya tha and i am still waiting but Mera question hai After apply mere husband nay nationality leya tha. Kia mujhay husband ke ( nationality papers) Embassy ko Email kerna chaheye?

    • Ali

      Asalam Alykum all brothers and sisters. Thank you so much for reply brother . I gonna take A1 course this month or maybe next month i got marry with German national but she is not pure german but sh have german passport . She divorced last 15 years ago and me too divorced guy last 2 and half years ago and we know each other last 4 years almost. Between me and wife have age gap she is 9 years of elder than me so its can make any kind of trouble for me when i apply for visa or submet my documents at embassy ?
      Please reply me as soon as possible May Allah Bless All Of Us Ameen.

    • FAMILY REUNION

      maine bhi 17th august apply kia an lawyer 24th august aya .. apka lawyer ane k bd nationality mili ya phle?

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