By:
Abdul Majid Malik <majid.malik[@]yahoo.com>;
Dear Members Assalam-o-Alaikum,
I am writing this email to let members know few things about family reunion and some mistakes which must be avoided. If some friend is going to get married in Pakistan, please tell him/her about these issues. Simple looking mistakes can cause big trouble and delay later in family reunion.
About Nikah Registration:
Registration of Nikah involves three people: Nikah Khawan, Nikah Registrar and Union council. UC gives a register with 50 leaves to Nikah-Registrar. Each leave contains Nikah Nama ” Form II” in quadruplicate. In one UC , only a single Registrar can have the register. In usual case, Nikah Khawan goes to Registrar(if he is himself not a registrar) and gets a Nikah nama Form II (which has fours copies). One copy each (filled and signed) is given to Duhla, Dulhan,Registrar and UC.
1. Take care that Nikah is registered at the same Union Council where Nikah has taken place .Address written on filled Nikahnama should be in the UC where Nikah is registered. Any thing different to this created big problem for many ,especially those who did Nikha in a Marriage Hall and brought Molvi sahib from some other UC. If you made this mistake, count a delay of at least 3 months. Embassy will raise objection as the lawyer sent for Marriage verification would like to see your Nikah registered at the same UC as address written on Nikahnama. You may be to asked to change registration of your marriage from one UC to other through a court procedure in Pakistan.
2. Please closely check all the four copies of the filled Nikah-Nama for any mistake in names, ID card nr., date of birth etc. Check that all signatures are there at right place and stamp of Nikah-Registrar is present. Many take things lightly in Pakistan while filling forms.
3. Telephonic Nikah is big no no. You must be present there as German Embassy/consulate now checks it from entry and exit stamps on your passport. If there are some unavoidable circumstances, give a written power of attorney which has legal value i.e signed in front of Notary Public/judge or from Pakistani embassy/consulate (in case they deal with it) to your father to represent you during Nikah. Better be present there. Your absence will complicate the matters and hence the delay/rejection as a consequence.
5. Some people I talked to have made mistake while getting online appointment. You mad a mistake in name, passport number or email address than most probably you will not be able to submit documents on that day. In my experience, if you decide to take an appointment for family reunion, you normally get it after 4 to 6 weeks. So missing an appointment can be source of further delay.6. The interview by lawyer or at embassy may involve basic questions from your spouse about you. Newly married; make sure he/she has all the basic info about you.
7. Spouse of a Blue Card holder is exempted from providing A-1 German language certificate. About this, don’t believe on what they say on phone :). If your spouse can’t manage to do a language course in Pakistan, present following reference of the concerned Law as proof on your appointment day:
http://www.bluecard-eu.de/eu-blue-card-germany/residence-act/spouse.html
http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/aufenthg_2004/__30.html
8. In some cities, there were cases when Ausländerbehorde(ABH) objected that the spouse in Germany is passing through the probation period of job. In some cities ,they ask for salary slips of 6 months while in others only for 3 months or just a job contract. Talk to other Pakistanis/Indians who have experience of dealing with the same ABH so that you can proceed accordingly.
Please correct if I am wrong on any account. The info is based on posts of members on this forum, experiences of acquaintances and my personal experience.
If you know some other issues which you or someone known to you faced, kindly share on this forum. This will facilitate others in their family reunion.
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AoA. Agar Birth certificate ki late registration ka issue ho aur us mei medical report create na ki gai ho tu Kia embassy ne pehlay wali late registration ko cancel karnay kay baad new registration karwanay ka kaha ha? Jab k banda abroad mei ho aur Pak mei secretary UC ne chairman kay order per registration ki ho.
Actully meray saath aik ajeeb tarah ka masla ban gaya ha. I am currently living in Germany. I have applied for marriage in Germany and my all documents were sent to Embassy Islalambad for legalization. Inquiry was done and all documents came back after clearance but embassy wrote in remarks that Birth certificate is ok,but formally incorrect,(mean, there was no age assessment report was created). Ab yahan ki higher coury jo shadi ki ejazat daiti ha us ne embassy kay remarks parh kar case halt kar diya aur kaha k main embassy se raabta karun aur iss malsay ko solve karun.
Kia koi bata sakta ha k iss surat mei kia karna paray ga jab main Pak mei mojood hi nehi tu medical repory kaisay banwaon aur us kay beghair kia dubaara late registration ho gi aur again inquiry?please anyone can share his/her experience in this regards. Thanks
Hi imran,
Can you kindly tell me how did you resolve your problem?
Br,
Umair
Salam,I want to know that if I’ll apply for spouse visa in may and will start language course after that it could be possible? And approx how long will it take if all documents are complete and are in order as required?
And its mandatory that the lawyer will come to your and your spouse place for investigation?
Normally the language course take minimum 6 months in completion and if you apply in May ajd start course after that then how you will be able to provide your A1 certificate to embassy, Generally when u will apply, the embassy will send an inquiry person to your place of residence and after clearence embassy will contact the aliens office if your husband in Germany and after clearing there you will be issued visa, but only when you will have completed all process and given all required documents.
Please make sure that your birth certificate entry is being done through proper channel legally before applying in embassy
Salam,
1. I would suggest to have language course A1 certificate in hand before you apply.
2. Yes laywer will must come for verification.
3. If everything is in proper order & in ideal scenario, you shall get visa within 4 months. However it varies case to case.
Regards
Aoa objection.clear kr k ducuments jama.kervany k kitny din bad lawyer dobara inquiry k ly ata hia
Normally within 1 month or more. Can’t say anything. What kind of the Objection is on your documents?
Birth certificate ka late idraj. or telephonic nikkah pe.
Don’t worry he will come within 1 month or around about.
If embassy create some more issues after completing their requirements or reject your visa then best way is that ask your busband to hire lawyer in Germany and put pressure on embassy through lawyer and aliens office in Germany. In that case embassy will surely give u visa.
I had seen same problem with my sister. My brother in law file case against embassy in German court and court sent order to embassy for issuing of visa. (But only when if your all requirements are completed then!)
Even one person from embassy asking for 80,000 PKR bribery for issuence of visa. But my brother in law said he will do anything to teach lesson to the embassy. He is German and he filed case in Court against embassy. It’s 6 years old story.
I advised to all persons who are dealing with embassy in any case, they shouldn’t take tensions or any kind of fear from embassy. Just enjoy it. If your case is genuine then nobody can reject or avoid you to get visa
Please tell me about the validity Of A1 certificate (actual valid time ) ?
Language certificates have no validity . Some testing centers suggest to repeat it after 2 years. Offices, universities etc can ask to be repeat it yearly
Thanks inshallah viza to mily ga
Ausländerbehörde se spouse ko visa appoval letter milne k kitne days bad visa call a jati?
Make sure that the letter your spouse has got is not the one in which ABH asks for submission of documents. It must be visa confirmation letter that they have issued the visa.
Then,
Max 1-2 weeks. Normmaly you will get within 1 week.
Mere husband ko Meri inquiry sy phly e AbH ny contact Kiya and said to submitt documents. ….udr sy sb clear hoga than Meri inquiry hogi ?
@Ayesha:
Yes inquiry is for everyone.
Asalam-u-alikum!
Ayesha did lawyer came to you for inquiry afterwards? Because I have the similar case as you mentioned.
Assalam o Alaikum.I just read your comment.Two Months have been passed when my wife applied her visa in German Embassy Islamabad.No lawyer came to visit her.I also heard nothing from ASB?is it normal? Can you please share your case.?
letter is in deutsch obviously but translation is like “i have reviewed your application today and happy to give a good news that i have forwarded my consent to german embassy islamabad in favour of visa issuance.” and then they have given details about wohnung anmeldung on arrival in Deutschland and for steps to follow for residence card
@family Reunion:
Congratulations then. You should get call within 1 week. InshaAllah.
InshaAllah
i guess visa calls are made only on thursday
do your spouse has a german passport? and did you submit salary slips from your spouse?
ABH has sent a letter to my wife saying that “they are happy to issue me visa and further decision is to be made by German Embassy” Please tell me how long it normally takes until i recieve a visa call?
Thanks
Congratulations, expect the visa call from embassy within one week.
Keep your Travel Insurance and Itinerary handy.
InshAllah thanks
Hi @family Reunion
When did you apply for the visa ? Can you just mention the timeline of whole process?
applied in islamabad embassy on 17 aug 2017.
laywer visited me on 24th aug 2017.
got an email on 15th jan 2018 to cancel on of the certificate from court order because i had double birth entry. and to submit court order in embassy by 15th april 2018.
submitted court order in embassy on 21 march 2018.
Abh sent visa approval letter on 29th march.
now waiting for visa call
Kindly can you tell me that when you have submitted your birth certificate again did they sent inquiry oerson again for verification or they have just accepted court order and one thing more did you submit personaly or sent via email thanx please tell me i have same situation family reunion
in email they have clearly mentioned there will be no inquiry by their lawyer if i submit the court order and i have just submitted court order. yes, i went personally.
and i didnt submit my birth certificate again as they already had it. they just wanted me to cancel additional birth entry as i had double entry.
Thanx a lot because i have also received email but they didn’t say me to submit 30000 and neither give me specific time frame for submission of new certificate with courtorder
Aoa, I have the same problem of double entry of birth certificate, my husband is european national my kids as well, only i need the visa to go germany.kindly tell me what did you do to cancel it.guide me in details…they ask me to send a complete court order by email also gave me a dead line of submission.
How to cancel the birth certificate through court order ?
How long it take to get appointment after successfully registering to get an appointment.
around 2 months
Thankyou so much.Can you please tell how do they inform about the appointment.Also how many days before they do so. Is.there any way to speed up the process.
there is no way to speed up appointment system and they will send you an email. keep checking your inbox regulalry
@Fozia:
1-2 Months.
Aoa firends mery 3 objections lagy thy mian ne 3 clear ker k jama kerva diye hian ik month ho gaya hia abi tk dobara inquiry k ly koi nahi aya kitna time lg sakta hia
walaikumsalam
InshAllah jldi he ajae ga. normally 1-2 months me ajate
Alhamdulilah Finally got visa call. peron on call said only bring passport. i said shall i bring insurance he said no just passport.
you will need insurance of 3months anyway,even if the embassy doesnt ask for it,kindly get it and also take to the embassy just in case
Thanks. i am confused about this as one of my friend got a call couple of weeks ago and embassy didn’t asked for insurance instead they have asked him when he wants to travel and issued him visa accordingly
Family reunion bhut bhut mubarik ho. Khuda ap ka jana mubarik kry.
ameen.
thanks alot
Hello,
I just wanted to know how much the funds should be? For example if someone is doing Werkstudent and earning around 1000 euros per month then how should he applies for family reunion visa?
@Abid:
I don’t think it would work. As far as i know 1K Euros is not enough.
Aslam o alaikum,
Bro i want some information about family reunion visa
Reply please
it not works. you income should be 2500 euro and permanent job position. Because in my case my company inform me if job certificate with probation period submitted into ABH. auslanderbehorde reject your wife application.
Assalam O AlaikuM ! Kindly koi mujhe guide karega k Germany k liye student visa me jo Blocked Account ka shart hai wo har koi bound hota pora karne ka ya phir agar koi RELATIVE ho germany me tu wo expenses bardasht kare tu phir blocked account mandatory hoga ya us ki phir zaroorat ni hoti ? My brother lives there in germany currently he holds a permanent residency and may get a PASSPORT soon so what is the process of student visa and its requirements. Any kinds response will be appreciated !! Ty .. Waiting ……
Aoa friends ager inquiry se pehly ap ka adress change ho jye jo embassy mian lekhvaya wo na ho to lawyer koi issue to nahi kerty hian na k ap ka idress ab change kyun hia ager kisi ko koi information ho to plz share kerye ga.
Aoa.
i want to ask that i applied for appoitment for glfamily reuonion visa in january, got appointment date of may.
main ny apna birth certificate niklwa liya hua tha with late entry but usky liye medical or other kam nahi krwaye thy ku k mujhy pta nahi thy.abhi meri appointment main time hai to main ny abhi medical or baki kam krwa liye hain.ab mujhy ye puchna hai k mera birth certificate niklny k bad main ny ye kam krwaye hain..to iska koi issue to nahi bany ga bad main? ya mujhy phly wala cancel krwa kar new bnwana pary ga? kindly suggest solution, i really need help
Aoa amy can you please tell why did it take 5 months to take appointment. Also please tell kitna phelay ap ko appoinment k liye inform kur diya gia tha.
not 5 months. totall 3 months.
at the end of january and start of may
better cancel the old one before applying don,t go for court if you will apply later embassy will ask you for court thing etc so better do it by your self to save time just delete the old entry and make it new with proper procuder as you said you already obtain medical etc so just go to uc and delete the old give them medical etc for age and asked them to make it new
what is the procesure to delete the old one? uc waly khud sy old wali delete kar sakty hain ?
Aoa. UC waly nadra walun ko bhula k old delete kervaye gy or new ap ko bna dy gy . Bhatar hia ap new bnava ly
main ny suna tha old delete krwany k liye court wala process hota hai.am i right?
Court wala process lamba ho ga ap jb new bnva ly gi to embassy ko kia pata .k ap ka pehly bi tha ap UC walun ko boly k pehly wala delete ker k new bna dy madecal report k bad taky ap ka inquiry k waqt masla na bny . Ager bad mian objection laga to emabssy waly ap ko court k chakr mian dal dy gy
New hi embassy main jama. Kervaye or madical report or baqi file UC mian jama.kerva dy taky lawyer inquiry k ly jye to wo cheak kry ga k ap ka proper tariky se hia ya nahi .
Alhamdulilah finally got visa. i would suggest everyone if on visa call they do not ask for insurance then do not buy one ( especially for German national spouses). when i received visa call they have asked me to bring only passport and when i went today no one asked for insurance instead they only ask you when do you want to travel so they can issue you visa accordingly. Best of luck to everyone
congrts.
can you please tell what is double birth entry issue which u have faced? what does it mean by double birth entry?
my birth was registered in Metropolitan Corporation Lahore which was normal entry (registered after 1 week of my birth) and another birth entry was made at Uc and it was late entry. so i had to cancel Uc entry by court order
so it means metropoliton birth entry is enough?
do you have metropolitan entry?
Congratulations.
Thanks and best of luck
Aoa, during the registeration process for appointment i unfortunately typed my passport number in small letters rather than capital ones eg ep instead of EP.The number however is correct. Will it make any difference. Answers will be highly appreciated.
You worry too much!! :) Good luck for the interview!!
Hi,
A month ago, my wife has submitted her visa for family reunion at German Embassy Islamabad, But at that moment, our two documents were missing so Embassy gave her a receipt where an email address was mentioned to send the missing documents.
She send these documents two weeks after and till now there is no response regarding any confirmation either they have received it or not?
Moreover, almost 5 weeks now and no call from Lawyer, How much time it could take more to receive the call?
Any idea or estimation like normally how much time it takes?
Many thanks in advance,
Normaly they don’t reply at all. And lawyer cant say anything some time in one month and some time it can take upto 3 months but normaly he come within 2 months
it normally depends on which city your wife lives?
Thanks for your response.
She live in Lahore. And i think the process should be fast, because one of her friend received call from lawyer after two weeks of application submission.
That’s why i was curious that why cause this delay?
lawyer visited me just with in one week. it mostly depends on lawyer as well.
Hello,
I want to know if anybody has experience if a family reunion of a child from Pakistan. I have applied family reunion of my 16 years old daughter in German Embassy Islamabad and still waiting for the decision.
Please share your experiences if anyone has done this before.
Regards,
Mrs.bajwa
Aoa.
i have a confusion
my nikkah is registered in uc where i leaved at time of my nikkah.still we own that house but dont live there.
and my birth is registred in diff Uc with late entry. is it fine?
W slsm nikakh k or birth ki uc allag allag se koi masla nahi hia late entry proper tariky se huni chahi .
thankyou so much :)
Aoa can anyone please tell me the proper way to get birth certificate in order to avoid court hassle in future. When i got my certificate UC just asked me to submit copy of my id, affidavits and matric and fsc certificate.
If you dont have metropolitan means the old version of birth vertificate then medical report as well
Thankyou so much for the reply. I already got the birth certificate but they didnt ask me to submit medical report. Shall i cancel this birth certificate and get new one?
yes you need to get cancelled your old one and make new one with medical assesment age test.
and nadra normally do not cancel old one without court order. you need to visit RHO Nadra. ( Regional Head office )
befind expo center johar town and go to CRMS Department for further information
RHO nadra lahore ( if you are from lahore) otherwise visit your city’s Headoffice
Now you don’t need to worry if you have already one sometimes they make objection sometimes they don’t if you are lucky enough.. or the other way is that cancel this one and submit new one with medical verification .. then you need to submit it in embassy but if you already have an appointment and dont have much time then let it to ne as it is and wait for good response inshallah everything is gonna good work
Thanks,
and what about the polio vaccination certificate, Is it a must for the process too? I read that somewhere too.
Right now you dont need it in anyway
Aoa can someone tell me how much more time required in family reunion visa case if received objection on birthcertificate….plz tell me the possible delay time???
Hi Fadi,
If you have birth certificate from metropolitan with late entry … does it matter ? I am assuming from your discussion that late entry create problems only if you have a birth certificate from UC. Am I right ?
Hello,
Can someone please tell me the breakdown of total processing time?
Like how much time it takes from submission to lawyer appointment and how much time it takes to reach Germany for verification? Like total breakdown.
Regards,
processing time varies from person to person as everyone have individual cases.
Hello Guys,
Read All your comments Actually I have applied for the appointment of Family Reunion Visa in mid of Feb and still waiting for the appointment, I wanted to confirm
1. Is it necessary to hire a lawyer like I read somewhere to bring 30ooo for the lawyer processing fee other than the 60 euros for visa process
2. Are they going to verify my address as well which is mention on my nikkahnama and CNIC, because I dont live there and its just mentioned in my current address and I recently shifted to a new place so no one is living there. Is this going to create some issue in verification process.
3. Can you please list down the things I will need on my first appointment
4. My UC is charging me 7000 for a birth certificate process Is it justifed?
5. I have my passport which is sill valid Do I need to update it for my marriage reason. As it was when I was single. Is there any kind of objection in that.
Please guide
As well as its concern about your passport don’t you need it to update .. and if you jave not submitted your documents in embassy then you have to make birth vertificate with proper procedure normally it doesn’t cost to much but it is pakistan .and the last thing address it doesn’t matter the matter is that you jave to give your current address where do you live right now because every one can change his or her address when they are on renatal basis or property is sold out so. Don’t worry about that but you nikkah is better to be registered in the same uc where you were living st the time of nikkah i think not sure
Thanks,
and what about the polio vaccination certificate, Is it a must for the process too? I read that somewhere too.
Syeda zahra, those 30 thousand rupees is the document verification fees. And you don’t need to hire a lawyer personally. Embassy has already a penal of lawyers and when we submit our documents for family reunion visa than they charge 30 thousand to verify those documents. You must bring 5 thousand rupee Note of 30000 RP.
Regards
Ok Got it!
Thanks.
Salam,
My wife asked the embassy about the status of Family reunion visa application and the person told that the application is in Immigration phase. What does that mean ?
when did lawyer came for verification?
Lawyer came in first week of January.
contact auswärtiges amt for status.
the best way to know the status of your application is by contacting auswärtiges amt
hi,i am trying to contact visa section but they dont reply.can u please tell me on which number u called and the replied.
Anybody who has applied in December and got the family reunion visa?
My wife has applied on 13 December 2017 for Family Reunion Visa and its around 6 months and still no visa call. I also confirmed from the auslaenderbehoerde here in Germany they say they are waiting for response from Islamabad Germany Embassy for documents verification. Whats your status, when did you apply?
R u a German national
Same here i applied in August and now almost 1 year but no answer
Same condition with us