Family Reunion – Pakistan – General info for all to avoid mistakes

By:
Abdul Majid Malik <majid.malik[@]yahoo.com>;
Dear Members Assalam-o-Alaikum,
I am writing this email to let members know few things about family reunion and some mistakes which must be avoided. If some friend is going to get married  in Pakistan, please tell him/her about these issues. Simple looking mistakes can cause big trouble and delay later in family reunion.
About Nikah Registration:
Registration of Nikah involves three people:  Nikah Khawan, Nikah Registrar  and Union council. UC gives a register with 50 leaves to Nikah-Registrar. Each leave contains Nikah Nama ” Form II” in quadruplicate. In one UC , only a single Registrar can have the register.  In usual case, Nikah Khawan goes to Registrar(if he is himself not a registrar) and gets a Nikah nama Form II (which has fours copies). One copy each (filled and signed) is given to  Duhla, Dulhan,Registrar and UC.
1. Take care that Nikah is registered at the same Union Council where Nikah has taken place .Address written on filled Nikahnama should be in the UC where Nikah is registered.  Any thing different to this created big problem for many ,especially those who did Nikha in a Marriage Hall and brought Molvi sahib from some other UC. If you made this mistake, count a delay of at least 3 months. Embassy will raise objection as the lawyer sent for Marriage verification would like to see your Nikah registered at the same UC as address written on Nikahnama. You may be to asked to change registration of your marriage from one UC to other through a court procedure in Pakistan.
2. Please closely check all the four copies of the filled Nikah-Nama for any mistake in names, ID card nr., date of birth etc. Check that all signatures are there at right place and stamp of Nikah-Registrar is present. Many take things lightly in Pakistan while filling forms.
3. Telephonic Nikah is big no no. You must be present there as German Embassy/consulate now checks it from entry and exit stamps on your passport. If there are some unavoidable circumstances, give a written power of attorney which has legal value i.e signed in front of Notary Public/judge or from Pakistani embassy/consulate (in case they deal with it) to your father to represent you during Nikah.  Better be present there. Your absence will complicate the matters and hence the delay/rejection as a consequence.
4.  Carefully read the requirements of Embassy for Family reunion. If any question arises, call embassy to get an answer. Don’t rely blindly on the info collected from here and there.
5. Some people I talked to have made mistake while getting online appointment. You mad a mistake in name, passport number or email address than most probably you will not be able to submit documents on that day. In my experience, if you decide to take an appointment for family reunion, you normally get it after 4 to 6 weeks. So missing an appointment can be source of further delay.6. The interview by lawyer or at embassy may involve basic questions from your spouse about you. Newly married; make sure he/she has all the basic info about you.

7. Spouse of a Blue Card holder is exempted from providing A-1 German language certificate. About this, don’t believe on what they say on phone :). If your spouse can’t manage to do a language course in Pakistan, present following reference of the concerned Law  as proof on your appointment day:

http://www.bluecard-eu.de/eu-blue-card-germany/residence-act/spouse.html 

http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/aufenthg_2004/__30.html

8. In some cities, there were cases when Ausländerbehorde(ABH) objected that the spouse in Germany is passing through the probation period of job.  In some cities ,they ask for salary slips of 6 months while in others only for 3 months or just a job contract. Talk to other Pakistanis/Indians who have experience of dealing with the same ABH  so that you can proceed accordingly.

Please correct if I am wrong on any account. The info is based on posts of members on this forum, experiences of acquaintances and my personal experience.

If you know some other issues which you or someone known to you faced, kindly share on this forum. This will facilitate others in their family reunion.

2,779 comments

  • Family reunion

    Salam
    Jab Lawyer Hamary pas Aya tha. Tou Mary Aur Meri Wife k Birth certifacte ki entry proper Hoi Thi back Files ki Pics bhe li ic ny. Lawyer ny at the end Kha k ap tension free ho jain ap ka Case bilkul thk hai.
    6 months and 3 Days passed still waiting. Dead Lazy System hai enka.

  • family viza

    nahi 21 din bad k late idraj nahi hota hia

  • Family reunion

    Salam
    My wife Applied for Family reunion visa in July.
    Lawyer visited her at home on 26 August.
    Auslander Behörde requested me to bring 3 months Salary Slips, Job contract and House contract.
    I was yesterday (friday) there. Officer sacaned my all documents and then he said i will write embassy Today and your Wife will recive visa Call on monday inshAllah.
    What should she Take with for visa ?
    Passport, Ticket and travel Health Insurance (which one).
    I have Health Insurance in Germany. Does she Really Need it?
    Thanks all
    Alhu

  • family viza

    congrulation bro .

  • family viza

    aoa fadi kia ap ne birthcertificate teak kerva leha hia .

  • family viza

    meri court se 26 january ki date hia. ap ki inquiry dobara ho gi kia ? mujy to mial mian lekha hia k 30 hazar fees jama kervani hia lawyer dobara inquiry k ly aye ga

    • Fadi

      I don’t know exactly q k mujhe mail mein just ye likha hua hai k medical report banwae aur old cancelled karwae and new banwae but 30000 ka kuch bhi nahi likha hua aapko kia especialy mention kia hai k 30000 deposit karwae ya just likha hai inquiry men will come

    • Family Reunion

      30000 hazar ka elava keya extra lawyer ke fees be hoti hae 6840 again agar visa reject ho jae?

      • haider ali

        Bahi apko 30000 jama karwane parege agar likha hai mene bi karwai hai or 2 mah se uppar hogai abi jawab nai aya embessy ka.mere bi birht ka masla tha

  • family viza

    mujy.clear.lekha hia k ap ne new verification k ly 30 hazae fees jama kervani hia . shead mera nikah ka bi court oder mikna is ly ap ka to sirf birthcertificate ka hia na

    • Fadi

      Nikah ki kia problem hai aapki apka nikah online tha kia ….? Ya koi aur problem hai

    • Family Reunion Visa

      hamy be 30 hazar ka likha hae submit karvao ess ka elava keya lawyer ke 6840 fees be hoti hae keya?

      • Fadi

        Sorry for late reply if your spouse is not german then you jave to submit 6840 fee as well kindaly can you tell me why you visa has been rejected … kia objection laga hai aapko

  • family viza

    mera nikkah phone pe huwa tha. us ko court se verify kervana hia

    • Fadi

      Hi admin,
      I would like to ask you kindly can you tell us that the embassy has me suggested to make new birthcertificate and cancelled the old one through court… kindly can you tell with your experience that the inquiry will come again or embassy is going to accept the court order

  • Fadi

    Hi admin,
    I would like to ask you kindly can you tell us that the embassy has me suggested to make new birthcertificate and cancelled the old one through court… kindly can you tell with your experience that the inquiry will come again or embassy is going to accept the court order

    • leo

      embassy will accpt court oder for sure and nobody will going to verify again as per my experience i had same problem but than it was accpted without any further investigation

      • Fadi

        Thank you so much for such information and one thing mire i am going to ask how long it gonna take because embassy has said once you submit your birth certificate then we will contact the auslander behorde again in germany because i got the court date 2 feb and then i think i have to go to the district hospital and age verification test i have to make for new birth certificate

  • family viza

    hello bahia. ap ko viza mila?

    • Family reunion

      Ausländer Behörde ny mujhy bola k Visa ok ho gay hai. Bola tha k Embassy Call kary gi. Abi Call Ni ayi. Visa ho gay hai. Ausländer amt ny mujhy Wife k Aufenthalt title k liya Form bhe dy diya hai.. Ab Pakistan embassy Call kary gi.
      Officer in Ausländeramt in Germany know me since many years. Ic ny jasy bola tha mery bethy hi embassy ko Contact kar diya tha k visa dy do. Embassy ny monday ko ok ki Report bhe Reply kar di mujhy Officer ny bola k Call embassy . Maine Call ki but Pakistan embassy ma banda Kisi German Person sy baat kar ni skta jo pakistani Wahn hain onko ni Pata. InshAllah aj kal ma Call aa jay gi. Duwa karain

    • Fadi

      Aslam o alikum kindaly kia aap mujhe btae gi k certificate jiss k liye aap ne 30000 pay kerna hai uss k liye aap ko embassy se new appointment bhi book karwana pare gi

  • umer

    Got a call from embassy now,they said my visa is approved come on monday/tuesday and bring passport only :/ didnt say anything about insurance or ticket

    • Fadi

      Congratulation umer but i think its better you go with insurance because when vusa is approved definitely you have to be medically insured and the ticket is not very important because the date stated on insurance your visa going to be start from that day……… Allah bless you

      • umer

        They said just bring passport,i guess it might be an interview but who knows lets see,i will visit them on monday

        • Fadi

          Okay but when it is interview then your wife is also getting appointment and they have mentioned time when they have not mention the time i font think so it is interview when they have told you your visa is approved but don’t worry when they are saying about insurance then you can mange it from the embassy because they also have photo insurance etc services at embassy….

          • umer

            Okay,no they havent given any specific time they said come on either monday or tuesday by 8am and my wife hasnt been contacted at all in germany but i am still getting insurance for 2 months starting from 15th feb so even if its an interview will soon get the visa hopefully so wont be a waste

    • Family reunion

      Congrats bhai.
      We are stil Waiting for call

      • umer

        Thanks lets see i will update on monday after visiting the embassy and will also provide compete details of my journey for getting the family visa and points i found which might help people who will apply soon,also best of luck hopefully you will get the call tomorrow or on the coming week if you need any help let me know thanks again

        • Family reunion

          Thanks
          Visa Call any ki Timings Kon si hain?
          Website pa likha hai
          Visa
          Monday- thursday 14_16 uhr

          • umer

            mujhy 2 bajay ai thi call

          • roheel

            apko maybe kisi neh mamu bana dia hai, mene last year visa lia tha n mujha tu subha 9 k time call ayi thi n embassy bi subha 8am ko ana ka kaha tha, mera 3 doston k sath bi same meri taraha howa tha, keine ahung apka case kyun diffirent hai,apki wife ko lazmi foreign office bulana chahya tha aur unka house aur salary ka bohat role hota apka visa mein, anyway best of luck

          • umer

            is no.sy call ai hai 0512007 yeh embassy ka nhi hai :O ? time tu mujhy b 8am ka hi bola hai per mujhy call ker k bola hai k visa approve ho gaya hai aur

          • umer

            i dont know expect tu mai b interview ki call ker raha tha aur wife b ABH sy contact expect ker rahi thi abhi tak usay nhi kia kisi ny contact,may be because she is working with government unho ny internally ker lo ho inquiry baki monday ko embassy ja ker hi pata chalay ga

          • umer

            Raheel bro,ap ko final interview ki call jab ai thi tu embassy ny kya yeh bola tha k interview k lia ana hai ? ya yeh bola tha k visa aa gaya hai ?

          • roheel

            mujha btaya tha k interview hai and meri wife ko yahan k foreign officd bi bulaya tha same time n date hamara interview live tha

          • roheel

            mujha btaya tha k interview hai and meri wife ko yahan k foreign officd bi bulaya tha same time n date hamara interview live tha, kuch samjh nai apka case mein kia ho raha hai, pehla br aisa suna

          • umer

            Ok yat mujhy call ker k bola hy k ap ka visa aa gaya hy monday ya tuesday ko embassy 8am aa jao,aur sirf passport ly ker ao :-/

          • roheel

            awkward normally everybody might need 3 months schengen travel insurance before get the visa sticker on passport an ek date deti hai embassy, wahan unki marzi se admi jata hai apni se nai,

          • Fadi

            Don’t worry aapka visa hi ho ga jub unho ne bhol dia hai k visa agya hai means visa so chill interview hota to apko back gate per bulaty aur proper timing hoti

        • umer

          chalo bhai monday ko phr embassy k bahir bhut thu thu honay wali hai :D :D lets see

        • umer

          no tension bro,embassy walay phone ker k jhoot tu nhi bol saktay may be woh passport ly ker next time dy dain gy i think k insurance aur ticket ly ker ao aur passport ly jao,i guess this might happen aur khuch cases mai woh spouse ko contact nhi kertay germany mai,shuru ki post mai khuch logo ny lihka hai yeh b

          • Family reunion

            Bilkul
            Maine bhe Suna hai.. ni bhe karty .
            Allah khair kary ga inshallah

          • family reunion

            ye roheel bhai jo bol rhi inka live interview hwa etc .. live interview unka hta jinka unhe shak hta shadi ka.. inki fb marriage isly inka diff case tha har ek ka individual case hta and har ek ko ni contact krte aüslanderbehörde so no one can compare their cases with others so dw n chill

          • roheel

            mera friends k sath bi aisa howa even wo tu pakistani larkiyun se shadi kar k gaya han, anyway ap jo embassy passport n insurance lakar aur germany ah k tax dena k lia bi ready rehna ap lol, 34%tax hai income par and then house, electrcity phone water food n pakistan ki family bi

          • umer

            My wife got a letter from ABH today,saying they were happy to give me visa :-) so its a visa and bro raheel sab ka case different hota ht

        • umer

          bro ap ko germany ja ker pata chala hai k 34% tax hota hai income per ? ap ki wife ny phelay details nhi di ap ko life kaisi hai wahan per ? :D :D

      • umer

        bhai call ai ap ki wife ko ?

  • family viza

    cogrulation umar bahi

  • family viza

    w slam mujy oppointment nahi lena ho gi.

  • family viza

    aoa koi timing to nahi hia. kisi ko subha 9 bjy ayi hia kisi ko din 4 bjy bi.

  • family viza

    aoa umar bahi . ap ko viza k ly hi unu ne bhulaya hia.inshalalh . yehh confirm hia k kuch logo ki wo germany se inquiry nahi kerty hian or un k spouse ko viza call a jati hia.is number se hi call pehly mian bi kisi ko ayi hia. embassy walun k pass itna time nahi k wo hum se mazak kary . happy ho jye viza hi hia

    • umer

      thanks alot,i had doubt it might be an interview but i am pretty sure now its a visa call thanks everyone

      • Fadi

        Congratulation umer bhai .. exactly everyone has individual case i was in germany for 3 n half year in berlin so i have seen lots of cases sometimes you are getting vusa without any effort and some times you jabe to struggle a lot like in my case my wife is here for 5 months but the ever still waiting

  • family viza

    aoa fadi ap ki wife ki birthcertificate ka issue hia ya ap ka . mian ne samjha ap ki wife germany mian hian or ap pakistan mian viza aply ker rehy

  • Fadi

    Before of that i was in berlin then we decided to come here and marry here

  • Ayesha

    Need help can anyone tell me if I have saudia birth certificate and living in Pakistan from decads ..and have never been registered in nadra birth record what should I provide embassy…? Oringal saudia birth certificate or anything alternative from Pakistani ?

    • Fadi

      Its better to give Saudis birth certificate or alternative if you are living in punjab and you have done your matriculation here then follow the complete procedure of late entry uc guys now that then submit that one but remember then you font need to tell embassy about saudia birth certificate

  • Ayesha

    Please help me ….need your guide line …as my apointment falls in feb

  • Ayesha

    Someone suggest me to get no entry certificate from Union and attach affidavit with it ..so it would be the proof of no birth record in Pakistan …and provide your saudia birth certificate tooo

  • Ayesha

    Other guy said me to send your saudia birth certificate again in saudia to Pakistani embassy they will attest it and then you have to attest it from forign affair. .this procedure seems quite difficult infact imposible…please guide me the exact way. .what should I do in case of my birth certificate

  • umer

    Got the visa today :)

    • Aleya khan

      Buhat Buhat mubarak ho.

      • family reunion

        did you get any response yet?

        • Aleya khan

          AoA nahi abhi tak nahi. Mera Husband ABH geya tha bcz wo Pakistan araha hai. ABH walo ne use kaha keh tum Apartment aur work k papers leker ao Hum edher se Process clear krte hai agar aap Pakistan m bhi ho to shayed Embassy Wale apki biwi ko call kerlay.

          • family reunion

            chalo best of luck!!

          • Ayesha

            Can anyone tell me mainy March ma apply krna h family visa. ..us k bad jtny months Mai Mera visa ok hojyga . .mere husband German national ha….airport py job krty ha …unho NY bola ha k unki inquiry nhi hoti and andaza ha apply krny k 28 days bad visa LG jyga ? Kya yh sahi h?

          • Fadi

            6 months time hai uss mein kabhi bhi lig sakta hai but 28 days impossible because inquiry aapki bhi to ho gi so you have to estimate 6 months when everything is okay its better

          • Ayesha

            Lawyer k janay k bad LG jata h ktny days tk ….it Fadi mny upr comment Kiya Tha birth certificate ka issue ha Mera please AP read kry or help kry…apko smjh aye tu…

          • Fadi

            See my wife is also german and most of the people has german spouses so its better that you have an estimate of 6 months in your mind may be you are going to get early if you are lucky of course visa lag jae ga jub sub documents and requirements are fullfiled … if you have saudi birth certificate then of course when you were born your family has registered in you pakistani consulate in saudi arabia so its better to ask pakistan embassy in saudi arabia if they can notarized your birth certificate and translate it to english so you habe time you

    • family reunion

      did you bring ticket or insurance with you?

      • umer

        thanks alot :) Aleya and yep i did got insurance and then visited the embassy they are really ……………. …………… people,they told almost all the people there to just bring passport and when they arrive on embassy gate the security person will tell them that why have you not bought insurance ?? and then tell that no no go back to shuttle service and get insurance from there,i happened to a girl today and you cant do shit about that they will just behave that you have to know all these things by yourself it is really bad how they treat people in embassy,anyway i had insurance so they let me go and after 2hours of sitting outside in freezing cold they gave me the visa

  • umer

    and i also visited them on monday as did many people because these idiots called many people to come on monday or tuesday and when we arrived on monday they told us that oh the family visa is only issued on tuesday so go back,i was like WTF why do you call us,and then these assholes will pretend like its all your fault,they will not even say sorry that we called by mistake anyway for all people my advice is do all the work and research your self dont even bother expecting any help from embassy,

    • umer

      and about Raheel and everyone else who were surprised about my wife not getting call from ABH,the ABH has told me and my wife to come together to ABH office when i arrive in Berlin to prove about our accommodation and her Job and stuff so that will be done as well,it varies from case to case

  • umer

    and i only bought insurance to embassy along with passport no ticket,i am booking my ticket now,and i bought UBL insurance for 2 months only for Rs4400 and they did not object but to be on the safe side you should get 3 months insurance as visa they provide is also 3months

    • roheel

      after see the job salary n other important documents, then the foreign office will issue u a residence card for 1 year , i know in embassy most of pakistani ppl doesn’t treat good even a man makes a photocopies n he was also speaking rude with me, instead of abuse what can we do, anyway congrats bro n welcome to deutschland, i also lives in berlin,

      • umer

        Well reporting this to forigen office in berlin,how the pakistani staff in German embassy is treating people,my wife has already told them,i will also tell them about all this,may be they will do something about it if many people complaint

        • roheel

          man last year in janaur i applied for visa n my wife is real german n these pakistani asshole who work in embassy doesn’t let my wife come inside, i was also thinking that i am gona complain about them here after come germany but believe me, here the germans r lazy asses, they r not going to do something

  • haider ali

    Sir mene last year 2017. 4april me family visa apply kiya tha me pakistan se hu or meri wife german hai or 19june 2017 me birth certificate ka issue nikal aya or pir mene court case kiya or complete karte karte 5 mah laggai or 19november ko embessy me jama karwaya dubara german fees di or 10 din bad wakeel bi verify kar k chale gya or aaj mere 2month or 13 din hogai hai or german mere abi tak documents nai pohmche kab tak call aaigi muje plssss tell me …… I am waiting

    • haider ali

      Me court case k bare me ab sub janta hu agar koi help chahta hai to btade…..

      • Fadi

        Haidar ali bhai apka if ya number mil sakta hai i need some info. Mujhe bhi birth certificate ka hi kaha hai kindly aap munhe just ye bata sakte ho k aapko unho ne fee dobara submit karwane ka kaha tha ya nahi…please do inform and aapki complete verification again hue means 2 bara se screen shot and story kaise mile thy kub mily thy etc ya just birth certificate hi dekha gaya

        • haider ali

          Agar mention hai 30000 to dene parege

          • Fadi

            Nahi mujhe jo mail ae hai uss mein mention nahi hai 30000 ka wo mail meri lawyer ko ki gae german language mein thy aur mujhe aap se pochna hai k inquiry apki complete again hur ya just birth certificate hi dekha gaya… aur aap ne age verification test bhi karwaya tha kia mujhe age verification test ka kaha gaya hai aur new ceritifcate banwane ka purana cancell kerwa k then ussko aprove kia jae ga embassy ki tarf se ye likha hua aya tha but paiso ka koi ziker nahi aya

  • haider ali

    03033931902 whats app bat karege ok

  • Arif

    Hi all,
    Meri wife ne apply kia hua hai german embassy main family reunion visa k liay.
    us k sare docs okay hain
    germany se aur pak se sb process complete hogya hai

    aik issue yeh hai k mera bc without medical bna hua hai aur mein is time germany main hn. so what you guys think k koi msla bn ckta hain?

    agar embassy medical k liay kehti hai and mere liay abi foran ana possible na ho to?

    now it’s been 6 months aur embassy se koi jawab nai aya

    Thanks in advance for your valuable answers.

    • umer

      6 months ho gy hain tu phr sab okay hy,docs mai masla embassy first 3,4 months mai bata deti hai,hopefully koi issue nhi ho ga ab

      • Arif

        Thanks bro for the reply.
        Mere bc ka issue to nai hoga ?

        • umer

          Bhai,is ka tu nhi pata embassy ny lagana howa issue tu laga dy gy,per zaida issues woh 3,4 months tak lagatay hain us k bad nhi,so hopefully sab docs okay ho gy hain ap k,ab wife ko visa call ay gi

          • Arif

            Thanks bro
            you gave me alot of hope now :)

          • umer

            Hopefully bro,per un ka khuch bharso nhi mai woh bata raha hn jo mai ny dehka hy forums per aur ither objection lawyer k visit k within one month lagta hai aur embassy email ker deti hy ab agar time zaida ho gaya hy tu bhut kam chance hain objection k,baki Allah bhetar keray ga sab

          • Fadi

            Umer bhai mera objection boht late aya hai april mein apply kia tha uss k baad now in January because in sep o got an email you case has been rejected and after making apeal they said you jave to make new birthcertificate but they didnt say anything fir 30000 …what do you say

          • umer

            yar seedhi c baat hai jo lawyer verification kernay aya tha case us k hath mai hota hay,us ny khuch bola ho ga ap ko ? us ny ap ki report bhut negative di k embassy ny objection nhi laga seedha reject ker dia visa,baki ap ko answer ,3,4 months mai mil gya tha,jin ka objection hota hay unhy b itnay time mai hi bata detay hain agar 6 months tak koi response nhi aya embassy sy docs jamay kerwanay k bad tu phr visa call hi ati hai maximum

          • Fadi

            Haan ye to hai iss ne boht negative report di because he was so rude that he was treating me like i am criminal and i did very bad thing to marry .. he was interviewing a lot when met how met why got married etc etc

        • Fadi

          Arif bhai you don’t need to worry apka birth certificate ka issue nahi ho ga because you have already Aufenthalt it is only concern to your wife and i think sub okay hai don’t you need to worry about that

          • umer

            yar aisay hi hotay hain sab,mera b Bc mai issue tha aur meray lawyer ny b bola tha Pakistan mai kaam kaisay hotay hain sab ko pata hai mai ny usay full protocol dia apni gari mai ly ker gaya har jaga verification kerwai aur phr Bc mai issue per us ny bata dia embassy objection laga dy gi,mujhy pata tha yeh mo kholay ga kisi time paiso k lia phr jatay howay mujhy bola 10,000 dy do mai setting ker dn ga mai ny dy dia phr sari report okay ho gai,ap ko kernay parta hai ither seedhay rastay per kaam kerwao gy tu phr har jaga issue create kertay hain yeh

    • Irfan

      Arif bhai same situation here. Me and my fiancée we both are here in Germany. We applied for marriage and Registrar office (Standesamt) send our inquiry in German embassy Islamabad and after inquiry came back. Everything was ok but embassy wrote in remarks that my Birth Was registered as late entry and without medical (age assessment report). So because of this report the German Higher Court are not accepting our documents for further processing and advised us to contact embassy and ask for the solution or further step to make it correct.
      Can you please suggest or tell your experience? Did you face such problem or not? Any suggestions please?

  • Ayesha

    Mjhy saudia birth certificate ka issue ha bta Dy embassy objection to nhi krygi ?

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